Originally Posted by afm
(Post 1483600)
How about cutting out the middleman and measuring the spacing of the pins?
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1483595)
I've thought about it. My concern is getting the spacing between the two bores just perfect, without having any sort of reference. Otherwise, I'll have binding calipers instead of loose calipers. I'm not assuming that the new, larger (worn-out) holes are perfectly concentric with the originals.
Well, to be honest, most designers are lazy. I'd say that goes for the ones in Japan as well. So it's a pretty good bet that the spacing of the pins is a nice round metric number. Ought to be able to get it pretty damn close with just a HF caliper. |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1483599)
Just buy the non-sport 1.8 rear calipers and the relocation brackets to use them with sport rotors. Then you can use any standard rear pad and avoid the sport pads.
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Originally Posted by rleete
(Post 1483603)
Well, to be honest, most designers are lazy. I'd say that goes for the ones in Japan as well. So it's a pretty good bet that the spacing of the pins is a nice round metric number. Ought to be able to get it pretty damn close with just a HF caliper.
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Brake gurus: I seek your opinion.
Observe this product listing: https://www.gomiata.com/mazda-mx-5-m...-calipers.html https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...864cb7457e.png "These are brand NEW aftermarket brake calipers, for less money than OEM Mazda rebuilt calipers!" It claims to fit '94-'01 cars (with '00-'01 being only the non-sport model.) $90 each. I am MORE than willing to spend this level of money to make this problem go away. The Mazda OEM Collision Parts guide says that non-sport '02-'04 models used the same caliper as '94-'01 cars. Though, oddly, it also states that what was considered to be the "right side" caliper in earlier years is used on both sides of the '01+ cars. NA guide: https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9a81a1977a.png NB guide: https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ad224992b6.png I just went down and inspected my car, and confirmed that the caliper is mounted on the front-side of the rotor on both right and left, and that the bleeder screw is at the top on both sides, so I fail to see how they can both be the same part. Consequently, I am suspicious of this information. (These are both official Mazda publications.) Obviously, I have "sport" brakes, and thus also the wrong rotors and support brackets. Judging by the photos, the support brackets appear to be included with the calipers, and obviously rotors are cheap. Whaddya think? |
Not sure why that says part numbers are same left/right. They are not.
You can just bolt on "1.8" stuff. The caliper piston area is different. Will result in bias and possible pedal feel changes. Also: Friends don't let friends purchase from GoMiata. |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1484402)
You can just bolt on "1.8" stuff. The caliper piston area is different. Will result in bias and possible pedal feel changes.
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1484402)
Also: Friends don't let friends purchase from GoMiata.
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To say that i'm highly skeptical of their claims as to their product being brand new and not remanufactured, would be a gross understatement.
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This is also an option: https://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazd...t/61-2190.html
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It is, and is an easy button, but you can save many dollars getting the equivalent stuff from Rockauto.
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They say they are Centric calipers... gotta be able to find them somewhere for cheaper if u can find the part #...
Also, you stated "If I drag the hand-brake lightly while going over bumps, the noise vanishes completely. As soon as I release the brake, it comes right back. This proves to me that the calipers are at fault, and not anything in the suspension / exhaust / etc." --Have you tried taking off the 14mm bolt and adjusting the caliper tension? I know on the non-sport calipers this can be done, not 100% sure on the sports. I turn that adjuster in till the rotor stops moving, then back off maybe 3/4 of a turn and I don't seem to get any audible rattle, and I can can even "wobble" the caliper by hand when no brake/parking brake is applied. |
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Vteckiller2000 was telling me this weekend that his Sport rear calipers need to be adjusted for the ebrake engagement a bit more often than his old 1.8 stuff. I haven't had the same experiences, but i do have some rattles that i previously attributed to my coilover sliders, and my brakes are freshly adjusted.
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Wow, their pictures are even correct... surprising.
Left rear sport Caliper Left rear non-sport Caliper |
Originally Posted by Mech5700
(Post 1484411)
They say they are Centric calipers... gotta be able to find them somewhere for cheaper if u can find the part #...
Found this vendor site: http://www.stylintrucks.com/parts/ce...ENBR7041.aspx# Claims that they are remanufactured.
Originally Posted by Mech5700
(Post 1484411)
Also, you stated "If I drag the hand-brake lightly while going over bumps, the noise vanishes completely. As soon as I release the brake, it comes right back. This proves to me that the calipers are at fault, and not anything in the suspension / exhaust / etc."
--Have you tried taking off the 14mm bolt and adjusting the caliper tension? I know on the non-sport calipers this can be done, not 100% sure on the sports. I turn that adjuster in till the rotor stops moving, then back off maybe 3/4 of a turn and I don't seem to get any audible rattle, and I can can even "wobble" the caliper by hand when no brake/parking brake is applied.
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1484413)
Vteckiller2000 was telling me this weekend that his Sport rear calipers need to be adjusted for the ebrake engagement a bit more often than his old 1.8 stuff. I haven't had the same experiences, but i do have some rattles that i previously attributed to my coilover sliders, and my brakes are freshly adjusted.
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They're all remans. If you're not getting NOS from Mazda, it's a reman.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1484417)
I was already going down this line.
Found this vendor site: Centric - Posi-Quiet Loaded Brake Calipers At StylinTrucks.com Claims that they are remanufactured. |
And if you are going to do rotors, these Centric Premium's are nice and painted, . I ordered a pair last week and installed them yesterday.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1484418)
They're all remans. If you're not getting NOS from Mazda, it's a reman.
They might by lying, I don't know. But truthfully, I'm extremely weary of reman rear NB sport calipers at this point, given all the different threads I've seen with people having this exact same problem. For $90 a side, loaded, I find it difficult to believe that they're drilling out the slider holes and re-bushing them. |
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