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levnubhin 08-12-2008 11:06 AM

Powder coating brakes
 
So I picked up a set of 1.8 brakes for my 1.6 last night from the u pull it. I also took the calipers because I would like to get them powder coated before putting them on. Has anyone here had their calipers powder coated? Did you have to remove the piston and then rebuild them? Or did you coat them as is and then slap them on.

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paNX2K&SE-R 08-12-2008 11:30 AM

I had the Z32 brakes on our S13 project powdercoated and I removed the seals and pistons first. I recommend that you do not leave any rubber pieces on the calipers b/c the ovens are pretty hot, over 400* iirc.

Braineack 08-12-2008 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by paNX2K&SE-R (Post 295338)
I had the Z32 brakes on our S13 project powdercoated and I removed the seals and pistons first. I recommend that you do not leave any rubber pieces on the calipers b/c the ovens are pretty hot, over 400* iirc.


It's safe to say your calipers/rubber can probably sustain temps higher than 400*F.


With that said, I've had great success with the ceramic caliper paint kits. The self leveling paint looks great and cleans with a rag and water.

levnubhin 08-12-2008 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 295345)
It's safe to say your calipers/rubber can probably sustain temps higher than 400*F.


With that said, I've had great success with the ceramic caliper paint kits. The self leveling paint looks great and cleans with a rag and water.

Thats what I was thinking. They have to see temps hotter than that at times if you track your car.
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Ben 08-12-2008 12:24 PM

Heat aside, you need to send the parts bare and then hone out where the piston and seals go. You don't expect the piston to travel on a rough surface do you?

Or you can do the easy thing and shoot them with some high temp paint like everyone else.

levnubhin 08-12-2008 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 295368)
Heat aside, you need to send the parts bare and then hone out where the piston and seals go. You don't expect the piston to travel on a rough surface do you?

Or you can do the easy thing and shoot them with some high temp paint like everyone else.

Yeah I knew that. I usually do paint them but I just hate how nasty they get over time. I would Imagine powder coating would hold up better.
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Arkmage 08-12-2008 12:33 PM

FYI, there isn't a powder coat in existence that can survive brake system cleaner. so if you powder coat them don't clean them with that stuff. Simple green/purple power are also bad for most powder coats (epoxy powder is fine with it though)

levnubhin 08-12-2008 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 295374)
FYI, there isn't a powder coat in existence that can survive brake system cleaner. so if you powder coat them don't clean them with that stuff. Simple green/purple power are also bad for most powder coats (epoxy powder is fine with it though)


Didnt know that, thanks.
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hustler 08-13-2008 09:51 AM

I've aways painted my calipers black or silver with the 1500* ceramic duplicolor paint. I've never had to reapply, even after 23 track days last year.

Ben 08-13-2008 10:29 AM

:werd: I did the same but in black.

Braineack 08-13-2008 11:24 AM

like I said, those ceramic paint kits are great.


http://www.boostedmiata.com/Brake_Upgrade/brake6.jpg

this was after like 2 years or so. looks brand new when i take the time to clean it.

Stealth97 08-13-2008 01:14 PM

I have had the ceramic duplicolor on mine for like 4 years, it is just starting to chip off.

Saml01 08-13-2008 02:43 PM

Scott, whered you buy the kit?

Braineack 08-13-2008 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 295937)
Scott, whered you buy the kit?


advance auto parts.

http://www.duplicolor.com/products/caliper.html

Arkmage 08-13-2008 07:46 PM

I might use some of the left over titanium ceramic coat I'm using on the manifold and turbine to do my calipers... but more likely I'll split the cost of the coating with Bryce and just do his too.

levnubhin 08-13-2008 10:13 PM

Yeah im just gonna go with the caliper paint kit. I just cant justify spending $125 to powder coat the calipers. Im gonna grind the calipers a bit first to get a smooth finish.
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samnavy 08-13-2008 10:55 PM

The key to painting your brake parts is in the prep.
Clean clean clean clean clean...and then clean some more.

On my car I fucked it away and just sprayed on some wheel cleaner and washed them off... BAD! On a buddies WS6, we did it right.

Use the painting as an excuse to flush your brakelines and pull them off the lines when you do it. Go to Harbor Freight and get a few different sizes of wire brushes. Lay all the parts out on your workbench and start going through them. We used BrakeKleen and gasoline... took us about 30minutes per caliper/bracket. Then we used soap/water and made sure they were really clean and all the solvents were off.

Then we used this one, but the Duplicolor on is more accessible and cheaper: http://g2usa.com/brake_caliper_paint.shtml

Duplicolor: http://www.duplicolor.com/products/caliper.html

And if I may be so bold... painting your stock calipers any color other than black always ends up looking like you put it on with a magic marker unless they're freshly washed.


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