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RotorNutFD3S 12-08-2008 03:10 PM

Pressure Plate
 
I have the ACT Extreme setup and I plan on keeping the same setup after the everything goes back together. However, I'd like to make sure that everything is up to par before it all goes back together so I don't have to tear it down again hopefully any time soon.

The disc, while it still has some life left, needs to be replaced now rather than later. Instead of buying a complete kit, I'd rather buy a replacement disc.
That said, I don't know the first thing about judging the worthiness of the pressure plate. Until I get home, I cannot post any pictures of it's condition, but I can say that the fingers are all at the inclined angle normally seen on a new clutch, none of them are bent in any odd way, and the only wear seen on them is at the tip where the release bearing sits. On the plate side, a few small burn marks are visable, but the plate itself is not warped or pitted. Overall, I feel that it is in good enough shape, but other than having messed up fingers, I don't know what consitutes a "bad" pressure plate.

Anyone care to enlighten me? Thanks. :noob:

Saml01 12-08-2008 04:30 PM

To be honest, I have never seen someone break a pressure plate. I most often here people screwing up the discs and flywheel, but never toasting a pressure plate.

What I would do is clean the plate up with some sand paper and then examine it. Better yet, post a picture.

RotorNutFD3S 12-08-2008 04:41 PM

I will post a picture as soon as I get a chance to! :)

Braineack 12-08-2008 06:25 PM

PP is fine :) order a new disc from carolina clutch.

RotorNutFD3S 12-08-2008 08:00 PM

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Well just to be sure Brain, here are some pictures:

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I can still feel the striations in the plate as well.
When does a pressure plate normally wear out or go bad? I already have new bearings, so if I just need a plate, I'll order one from Hi Im Simon's ACT vendor buddy.

Braineack 12-08-2008 08:03 PM

call ACT and ask them how much force it takes to lift the friction surface when the diaphragm is pushed down new...then take the PP to a shop with a press that can measure the load....measure and compare ;)

RotorNutFD3S 12-08-2008 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 338942)
call ACT and ask them how much force it takes to lift the friction surface when the diaphragm is pushed down new...then take the PP to a shop with a press that can measure the load....measure and compare ;)

Oh. I can barely get parts to the machine shop around my work schedule, much less find a place during normal business hours that can do that. Especially around here in BFE.

Ben 12-08-2008 08:16 PM

lightly scuff that bitch with some sandpaper
install new disc
?????
profit

RotorNutFD3S 12-08-2008 08:18 PM

Yeah yeah yeah, I know your opinion already. lol I told you I was going to post this.

Ben 12-08-2008 08:21 PM

right, but I added profit

RotorNutFD3S 12-08-2008 08:30 PM

Very true.

miatamania 12-08-2008 09:53 PM

I want to do this when I swap motors...go from a street disc to a 6 puck to hold a bit of extra power, but still save weight and about 300 bucks.

RotorNutFD3S 12-09-2008 09:25 AM

Is there any particular grit sandpaper I should use? Any particular method (besides lightly scuffing)? Basically what should the end result be?

akaryrye 12-09-2008 11:25 AM

ive used like 150 grit and a small block, seemed to work fine. The scratches will be removed in a few hundred miles

Braineack 12-09-2008 12:37 PM

use a ScotchBrite pad.

RotorNutFD3S 12-09-2008 12:39 PM

Cool. So just because I want to know, other than worn out fingers or a messed up plate, is there anything else that makes a pressure plate "worn out"?

Saml01 12-09-2008 01:40 PM

There's nothing else to it. I think that would be it.

hustler 12-09-2008 04:46 PM

should I expect to be able to reuse a pressure plate when you have a metal clutch disk?

patsmx5 12-09-2008 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by RotorNutFD3S (Post 339158)
Cool. So just because I want to know, other than worn out fingers or a messed up plate, is there anything else that makes a pressure plate "worn out"?

I've seen the fingers wear, or bend. Also seen the friction surface be worn to the point that the rivets on the disk hit the friction instead of the disks' frictions, causing it to pretty much not work. Or a warped friction, or glazzed over surface.

I'd just scratch it up and run it. It's not rocket science really. I'd get some 80 grit sand paper or so and scuff it up till it's clean metal. You don't want it dead slick or it won't cut into the new friction disk and break in. Same reason you hone an engine block.

As said, sandpaper on a flat surface is your best bet. A small 1" piece of glass works great if you happen to have something like this, as it's dead flat, very rigid, and will allow you to literally "surface" it pretty damn flat. I've surfaced small cylinder heads for small engines (go carts, outboards, etc) using this method. Very easy to get into factory spec.

Toddcod 12-10-2008 12:25 AM

Get s scotchbright pad from the kitchen. Your mom, girl, or roomate will never know it is gone. I wouldn't use anything heavy. Mine came off easy with the green pad, and there won't be any scratches to wear on your disc.

It is broke sell it to me cheap!:)

Quit thinking and install it. It is in perfect shape. Those pressure plates last forever. Those shiny spots on the teeth are normal. And will happen the first time you push the clutch in.

Seriously though, if you don't trust it, PM me. But I would use it if I was you.

Good Luck!


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