Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain discuss the wondrous effects of boost and your miata...
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Rear end snaped!

Old 10-21-2009, 03:37 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
miataspeed2005's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Connect-I-Cut
Posts: 1,404
Total Cats: 0
Default Rear end snaped!

My rear end snaped right in one of the arms. I had my buddy welded back with a strong thick weld. Do you guys think it will hold? Or am I wasting my time? I really don't want to buy a new one.
miataspeed2005 is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 03:41 PM
  #2  
Elite Member
iTrader: (7)
 
mgeoffriau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Jackson, MS
Posts: 7,388
Total Cats: 474
Default

SNAPED!

mgeoffriau is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 03:42 PM
  #3  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

It is aluminum. Did your buddy weld it together properly? The size of the weld does not matter as much as doing it CORRECTLY does. If he used regular 'ol welding and not specifically an aluminum welder using a tri-mix of gas I don't see it holding together well.
18psi is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 03:45 PM
  #4  
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Savington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,099
Default

Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
SNAPED
Savington is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 03:59 PM
  #5  
y8s
2 Props,3 Dildos,& 1 Cat
iTrader: (8)
 
y8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fake Virginia
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 573
Default

potter potter potter potter
y8s is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 04:05 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
naarleven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posts: 1,365
Total Cats: 0
Default

rear control arm snapped??? what did you do?

snape snape severus snape, DUMBLEDORE!
naarleven is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 04:38 PM
  #7  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,488
Total Cats: 4,078
Default

oh shnap!

Braineack is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 04:41 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
miataspeed2005's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Connect-I-Cut
Posts: 1,404
Total Cats: 0
Default

Originally Posted by naarleven
rear control arm snapped??? what did you do?

snape snape severus snape, DUMBLEDORE!
Not a rear control arm. I don't know what they are called but one of the arms that hold the rear end.
I was launching the car and the rear just snaped, I'm pretty sure he welded it good as he does it for a living. I guess I'll have to just try it and cross fingers?I would just hate to be left out on the side of the road
miataspeed2005 is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 04:45 PM
  #9  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

i'd start looking for a new one. Should be fairly cheap at a scrap yard
18psi is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 05:24 PM
  #10  
Elite Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Loki047's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,143
Total Cats: -5
Default

Yesh if only someone was selling a rear end...
Loki047 is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 05:42 PM
  #11  
Guest
iTrader: (6)
 
M-Tuned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Vaughan, On, Canada
Posts: 1,085
Total Cats: 1
Default

It will be fine if welded properly. I've seen many diffs like that last for a very long time once welded. Welded ones are usually stronger as the diff is designed to break there in a rear end accident. (Diff is knotched to allow this to break)
M-Tuned is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 06:52 PM
  #12  
y8s
2 Props,3 Dildos,& 1 Cat
iTrader: (8)
 
y8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fake Virginia
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 573
Default

anyone with the notched model diff should grind the notch to be a smooth transition over like 2 inches and it wont break so easily.
y8s is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 07:06 PM
  #13  
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
miatauser884's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,959
Total Cats: 11
Default

Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com
It will be fine if welded properly. I've seen many diffs like that last for a very long time once welded. Welded ones are usually stronger as the diff is designed to break there in a rear end accident. (Diff is knotched to allow this to break)
Sounds like it might be a good idea to reinforce this area before trying extremely hard launches.

Good bit of info, Thanks
miatauser884 is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 09:28 PM
  #14  
Elite Member
iTrader: (10)
 
9671111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,582
Total Cats: 18
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
oh shnap!

This didn't manage to find its way to parts group did it?
9671111 is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 09:57 PM
  #15  
Elite Member
iTrader: (12)
 
neogenesis2004's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,413
Total Cats: 20
Default

It just so happens I have spare in my garage. Whats it worth to you?
neogenesis2004 is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 10:12 PM
  #16  
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
miatamania's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Concord, North Carolina
Posts: 4,160
Total Cats: 6
Default

Been there done that.
miatamania is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 10:30 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
miataspeed2005's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Connect-I-Cut
Posts: 1,404
Total Cats: 0
Default

Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
It just so happens I have spare in my garage. Whats it worth to you?
I'm going to give this one a try and see what happens, I'll let you know if it doesn't hold up.
miataspeed2005 is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 10:51 PM
  #18  
Elite Member
iTrader: (6)
 
kenzo42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 2,016
Total Cats: 13
Default

Originally Posted by y8s
anyone with the notched model diff should grind the notch to be a smooth transition over like 2 inches and it wont break so easily.
Dumb question:

So once the notch is removed, it won't break as easily although it's now thinner throughout the 2" length?
kenzo42 is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 11:13 PM
  #19  
y8s
2 Props,3 Dildos,& 1 Cat
iTrader: (8)
 
y8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fake Virginia
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 573
Default

Originally Posted by kenzo42
Dumb question:

So once the notch is removed, it won't break as easily although it's now thinner throughout the 2" length?
yup. the notch is a designed-in stress concentration.

it focuses the stress at a single point on the surface instead of distributing it along a longer length naturally.

same deal for cutting glass... you score a line to create a stress concentration and it breaks easily at the line. it is weaker at that point than even a thinner piece of glass.
y8s is offline  
Old 10-21-2009, 11:17 PM
  #20  
Elite Member
iTrader: (6)
 
kenzo42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 2,016
Total Cats: 13
Default

So why did Mazda put the notch in anyway? Prevent frame damage in rear end collision?
kenzo42 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Rear end snaped!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:02 PM.