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1993ka24det 01-08-2014 09:38 PM

Rearend Sounds like a Dogbox: Now Fixed
 
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I made a video before i changed the diff

So today I changed out the factory 4:30 Torsen to a 4:10 open diff
Here is what I found

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All the pieces have those groves in it. Anyone know what they are part of?



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Leafy 01-08-2014 10:34 PM

The pieces kind of look like a splined part.

Also holy suspension droop batman.

matthewdesigns 01-08-2014 11:24 PM

Post a closer shot of the broken diff, and the bits, too.

1993ka24det 01-08-2014 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by matthewdesigns (Post 1089865)
Post a closer shot of the broken diff, and the bits, too.

The Ring and pinon looks good with no chips missing, but has ALOTS of play

Ok I will have to take some tomorrow when I could use a better camera

By the way I bought my 93 race car at Colorado Springs

EricJ 01-09-2014 12:35 AM

An '04 would not have a Torsen, but have a Tochigi-Fugi, which is a cone type LSD. The grooved pieces are parts of the cones.

Differential Spotters Guide

matthewdesigns 01-09-2014 01:34 AM


Originally Posted by 1993ka24det (Post 1089870)
The Ring and pinon looks good with no chips missing, but has ALOTS of play

Ok I will have to take some tomorrow when I could use a better camera

By the way I bought my 93 race car at Colorado Springs

Skip the pics, Eric called it.

Recently picked up the race car? Chris S's former car?

richyvrlimited 01-09-2014 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by EricJ (Post 1089882)
An '04 would not have a Torsen, but have a Tochigi-Fugi, which is a cone type LSD. The grooved pieces are parts of the cones.

Differential Spotters Guide

Indeed, and the failure the OP posted is extremely common with them.

I've seen anecdotal evidence that the typical independent brake testing done on a roller , (where you have the roller spin the rear wheels and you apply the brakes/handbrake. The roller reduces pressure on one side or the other or both to test brake balance and effectiveness of the rear brakes), for MOT tests in the UK are very good at causing this type of damage.

If you have something similar in the US it may be the cause.

Braineack 01-09-2014 07:41 AM

going to an open is sad...

rleete 01-09-2014 09:17 AM

Props to EricJ for the info.

soviet 01-09-2014 09:36 AM

TOCHIGI-FUJI IS THE BEST DIFF
(at least mine is)

1993ka24det 01-09-2014 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by EricJ (Post 1089882)
An '04 would not have a Torsen, but have a Tochigi-Fugi, which is a cone type LSD. The grooved pieces are parts of the cones.

Differential Spotters Guide

Thanks Eric for the help, I was so wore out yesterday working on a few cars



Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1089919)
going to an open is sad...

It does kinda suck but since it is my daily driver, I would rather have the 4:10. And after a rebuild I will be putting it in the Track Car

2004GS 02-10-2014 07:49 PM

Just saw this thread and wanted to comment.

I had the same issue last spring, went to change the diff oil and pieces of the cone came out.

Ended up putting a torsen into it. The guy that did the work for me said that it looked like the gears tried to eat some of the parts that we're moving around with the oil. Fingers crossed that the new setup holds up.

I searched online for other posts on this type of failure but your is the first I have seen.

My car was never raced or tracked in any way, I did have some tire hop in the wet with the oem tires.

Any idea on what happened to your?


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