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12arotarymiata 12-05-2014 06:04 AM

Rx8 diff swap?
 
I have a na miata so my oem 6" diff is as weak as a box of animal crackers so I had planned on dropping in an entire tll drivetrain but the availability around me for rx7 parts is limited. The rx8 diffs are looking very attractive with there 4.44 fd. Would it be possible to put an rx7 outer axle cv on a rx8 axle? I ask bc I already have some miata hubs machined for rx7 splines. Has anyone completed this other than the nc miata guys?

OGRacing 12-05-2014 09:47 AM

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12arotarymiata 12-05-2014 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by OGRacing (Post 1187283)
oh man.. periods.. are.. your friend....... ... ... ... ... ... .. ... ... .

Sorry I thought this was a miata forum....... I'll move it to the grammar forum........

rharris19 12-05-2014 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by 12arotarymiata (Post 1187297)
Sorry I thought this was a miata forum....... I'll move it to the grammar forum........

It isn't that we expect perfect grammar, but if you are asking for help, the least you could is put some effort into making it easy for people to read. If you type questions that way, you will not get many, if any, educated useful responses. It makes it seem as though you don't care enough, so why should we?

12arotarymiata 12-05-2014 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 1187314)
It isn't that we expect perfect grammar, but if you are asking for help, the least you could is put some effort into making it easy for people to read. If you type questions that way, you will not get many, if any, educated useful responses. It makes it seem as though you don't care enough, so why should we?


If you don't have any answers to my question other than talking about my grammar then don't post.

rharris19 12-05-2014 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by 12arotarymiata (Post 1187319)
If you don't have any answers to my question other than talking about my grammar then don't post.

If you don't have an answer to my question, then please don't post. I don't understand grammar or sentence structure.

aidandj 12-05-2014 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by 12arotarymiata (Post 1187319)
If you don't have any answers to my question other than talking about my grammar then don't post.

You haven't been here long have you...

Oscar 12-05-2014 12:27 PM

Probably wont stay long either...

12arotarymiata 12-05-2014 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 1187323)
If you don't have an answer to my question, then please don't post. I don't understand grammar or sentence structure.

I guess I know one member who doesn't have the answer for my initial question.

sixshooter 12-05-2014 12:36 PM

So use a 1.8 7" diff?

12arotarymiata 12-05-2014 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1187337)
So use a 1.8 7" diff?

The 7" diff is an option. I would like to use the rx8 diff bc it's a 8" diff

turbofan 12-05-2014 03:12 PM

How many 7" diffs have you broken?

I'm glad you feel entitled to answers from us.

12arotarymiata 12-05-2014 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1187378)
How many 7" diffs have you broken?

I'm glad you feel entitled to answers from us.

I haven't torn up any diffs. I'll be doing some drag racing with the car and I'd much rather put a diff in that's beefy enough to handle anything. I've seen some destroyed 7" diffs and axles in other threads.

I don't feel entitled to answers. But this is a forum for asking questions and being talked down too about my grammar seems childish.

turbofan 12-05-2014 03:38 PM

Not using understandable, legible grammar is what's childish.

The diffs aren't really what's known for breaking in these, it's most often the axles as you mentioned.

Anyhow, I'm done ball busting.

Just remember: If people are blowing up diffs and axles and you hyper-beef up those parts, then something else (probably more expensive) will break instead. Many like Bryan who have broken axles choose to keep replacing broken axles when they go because they'd rather break axles than transmissions, engines, or whatever else.

12arotarymiata 12-05-2014 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1187391)
Not using understandable, legible grammar is what's childish.

The diffs aren't really what's known for breaking in these, it's most often the axles as you mentioned.

Anyhow, I'm done ball busting.

Just remember: If people are blowing up diffs and axles and you hyper-beef up those parts, then something else (probably more expensive) will break instead. Many like Bryan who have broken axles choose to keep replacing broken axles when they go because they'd rather break axles than transmissions, engines, or whatever else.


Very true beefing up one part will cause something else to break. I've got a turbo ll trans I'm installing also. I'd like to have a solid drive train to keep from replacing parts. The engine will be the weak link.

I agree my grammar isn't very good and will probably never be. I'm a welder by trade so it's not really on the top of my to do list.

turbofan 12-05-2014 03:50 PM

Your grammar is fine now.

Tis cheaper to replace axles than engines. Just a thought.

12arotarymiata 12-05-2014 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1187395)
Your grammar is fine now.

Tis cheaper to replace axles than engines. Just a thought.


Thanks for the input

curly 12-05-2014 07:40 PM

You seem to of pryed your answer out of one of our nicer members, but please remember we have a warning for poor grammar for a reason. The site as a whole enjoys answering easy to read posts.

And is being a welder really your excuse for forgetting your language education? You wrote better the more we teased you about it, all we ask is a little effort be put into each post.

concealer404 12-05-2014 07:51 PM

How much power are you making?

turbofan 12-05-2014 07:53 PM

That's easy. Allofthetorques, because 12A rotary.

12arotarymiata 12-05-2014 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1187442)
How much power are you making?

Cars not put together yet just wire tucked. I've got a hx35 going on it. I'd be happy with 300whp.

ScottyP3821 12-05-2014 11:01 PM

Fuck! Anyone else see what I see?

12arotarymiata 12-06-2014 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1187326)
You haven't been here long have you...

It says newb but I've been on here for years. But I'd rather sell the car than ask another question. Especially if no one knows the answer.

blaen99 12-06-2014 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by 12arotarymiata (Post 1187444)
Cars not put together yet just wire tucked. I've got a hx35 going on it. I'd be happy with 300whp.

If you had bothered to search, with this statement, you'd have realized how goddamn stupid this question is.

Hint: 7" gears are known to be good to ??? hp, require no fabrication, and are bolt in. So, what's the ???

12arotarymiata 12-06-2014 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by blaen99 (Post 1187527)
If you had bothered to search, with this statement, you'd have realized how goddamn stupid this question is.

Hint: 7" gears are known to be good to ??? hp, require no fabrication, and are bolt in. So, what's the ???

I'm sorry you feel that you have to take the lords name in vein. I've done plenty of research that's why I asked the question about the rx8 diff. There isn't much info for that particular 8" diff. If the 7" diff was the best thing since sliced bread s2000 owners wouldn't swap them out. My intent is to spend the money on heavy duty drivetrain parts now rather then buy 2-3 transmissions or differentials.

BoostedSmurf 12-06-2014 12:13 PM

You say you want to buy heavy duty parts so you don't have to replace them down the road but you also say you'll be drag racing. Those two don't go together.

I have a tii rx7 trans and diff swap in my car. I plan on drag racing a bit. I already bought the spares for when I blow these first ones up.

You'll probably get decent life out of a 7"

Braineack 12-06-2014 01:47 PM


You'll probably get decent life out of a 7"
just don't drag a torsen.

ctdrftna 12-06-2014 11:07 PM

If you need a big rear end, don't be a tard, get a Ford 8.8 swap from V8 roadsters. Its the best option for big power drag launches and you won't be reinventing the wheel. I went to the drag strip once, I came home with a blown torsen. It blew in the burnout box from wheel hop. Ditch the PPF for drag!!!

cordycord 12-08-2014 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 1187610)
If you need a big rear end, don't be a tard, get a Ford 8.8 swap from V8 roadsters. Its the best option for big power drag launches and you won't be reinventing the wheel. I went to the drag strip once, I came home with a blown torsen. It blew in the burnout box from wheel hop. Ditch the PPF for drag!!!

Monster Miata has the Ford swap too.

unk577 12-08-2014 10:13 AM

I believe V8roadsters just released a kit for the Getrag and keeping the PPF. Don't know about the 8.8 but you could ask them.

krissetsfire 12-08-2014 10:50 AM

I haven't been on the forum lately but it's nice to see the same shit going on.

Yo, Leo, Bro. Don't patronize us. Registered January of 2009. Saying you've been on for years. Please. Then stating stuff like you want a new rear end for reliability, eluding to the 7" not being enough. Bro. Please. Bro. Then stating you'd be happy with 300hp. Bro, dude, bro. You've read about as much of mt.net as you have your 5th grade writers inc book. please.

Our literal advice is not going to cut it. YOLO build and give us the finger.

BoostedSmurf 12-08-2014 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by unk577 (Post 1187832)
I believe V8roadsters just released a kit for the Getrag and keeping the PPF. Don't know about the 8.8 but you could ask them.

Not sure why you would want the PPF if you are upgrading for drag racing though. My understanding is that the flex of the PPF is what allows a lot of the wheel hop to happen which is what is breaking diffs. I ditched the PPF for a solid front mount on the diff and solid rear mount on the trans in hopes to eliminate wheel hop

Savington 12-08-2014 01:39 PM

The PPF has absolutely nothing to do with wheelhop, IMO.

aidandj 12-08-2014 01:44 PM

With solid axle cars/trucks wheel hop a lot of times comes from axle wrap. I'm not sure about the mechanics of the movement of an IRS but if the diff is allowed to rotate it can lead to wheel hop when it rotates then unloads.

rleete 12-08-2014 02:13 PM

Toyota Tacomas are known for this. Too bad I didn't know it before I bought. It drives me nuts, but the dealers claim it as "normal". Just can't get on it from a stop or it lurches/hops when it shifts.

aidandj 12-08-2014 02:39 PM

Traction bars will normally fix that. It happens to a lot of leaf sprung trucks.

sixshooter 12-08-2014 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1187927)
It happens to a lot of leaf sprung trucks.

Because it twists.

aidandj 12-08-2014 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1188035)
Because it twists.

Which traction bars stop :p

Does the same twisting happen with the miata suspension. Anyone have some undercar video?

sixshooter 12-09-2014 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1188041)
Which traction bars stop :p

Does the same twisting happen with the miata suspension.

Yes, the leaf springs on the Miata allow it to wind up. You can install traction bars to stop it.

OGRacing 12-09-2014 09:25 AM

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cheap drag racing diff. if you blow it up with a 1.8l i'll mail you $20.

Failure 12-09-2014 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1188081)
Yes, the leaf springs on the Miata allow it to wind up. You can install traction bars to stop it.

It's a serious issue. If you let it go too long, they can permanently deform into coils.

aidandj 12-09-2014 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1188081)
Yes, the leaf springs on the Miata allow it to wind up. You can install traction bars to stop it.

I meant does the stock setup allow for any twisting. If it did it would explain why solid mounting could help.


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