Stiffening a 2003
I picked up a nice mint 2003 over the weekend, and i'm trying to plan out mods. I figure suspension / stiffening related makes more sense up front, I can spend a few hundred every month or two and enjoy the difference in the ride.
So the question is what ones are really worth it? I like the 3 point shock tower brace but there already is some 2 point brace there, I don't know which it is. so this seems a worthwhile upgrade https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dbfb9f5bc6.jpg Polished Stainless Steel Miata Shock Tower Brace for Miata The undercarriage single bar seems to make sense for its price https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...330f9efc63.jpg BEATRUSH Front Performance Bar for Miata 1998-2005 and after that, maybe some high performance engine mounts, I chuckle a little at how much the transmission tilts with accel/decel But beyond that, I'm stumped as to which changes make enough of a difference to be worth it. Not so much worth the $, but worth the effort of installing :D maybe this rear shock tower brace? https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...df9177dd30.jpg Rear COBALT Shock Tower Brace for Miata Of course better sway bars, but I figure it makes more sense to stiffen up the suspension first to get max value out of that Are the door bars worthwhile? and do they make getting in and out much more of a pain in the neck? |
Frog arms, frame rails, roll bar. Done.
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Originally Posted by EasyEJL
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I picked up a nice mint 2003 over the weekend, and i'm trying to plan out mods. I figure suspension / stiffening related makes more sense up front, I can spend a few hundred every month or two and enjoy the difference in the ride.
So the question is what ones are really worth it? I like the 3 point shock tower brace but there already is some 2 point brace there, I don't know which it is. so this seems a worthwhile upgrade The undercarriage single bar seems to make sense for its price and after that, maybe some high performance engine mounts, I chuckle a little at how much the transmission tilts with accel/decel But beyond that, I'm stumped as to which changes make enough of a difference to be worth it. Not so much worth the $, but worth the effort of installing :D maybe this rear shock tower brace? Of course better sway bars, but I figure it makes more sense to stiffen up the suspension first to get max value out of that Are the door bars worthwhile? and do they make getting in and out much more of a pain in the neck? |
step away from the "buy it now" button because all that junk you just linked is a giant waste of money
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Originally Posted by sshamrockk
(Post 1467867)
Frog arms, frame rails, roll bar. Done.
I've tried those shock tower braces, they don't make enough difference for you to feel anything, It's a waste of money and just adds weight. |
Have you considered delrin door bushings?
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I thought we had established that delrin door bushings do not increase stiffness; they just keep your doors from rattling around.
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What about the PACO brace that FlyinMiata sell?
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Originally Posted by my97miata
(Post 1467928)
What about the PACO brace that FlyinMiata sell?
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I like the v8 roadsters design for frog bars
https://v8roadsters.com/product/cowl-stabilizer-braces/ |
All the fender braces do pretty much the same thing. So get whichever you think are pretty and would look good covered up by your fenders.
If you want Frog Arms, OBX is selling exact copies of them on Fleabay. |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1467868)
.... what.
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Originally Posted by EasyEJL
(Post 1468014)
Well, sure the sway bars are for body roll. If you don't stiffen up the body although you'll reduce roll, you'll still have the body flex, potentially even worse as now more of the force is put into the "frame" of the car as the suspension tries to take a flatter path. Body roll isn't in a turn identical front to back, so you'd be putting more torsional stress on the piece in the middle, the "frame". At least that's what I was thinking.
This is what i didn't understand. Anyways, a good suspension will have about.... 148,982,124,463.3x more impact to making the car good than anything being talked about in this thread. |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1468016)
Of course better sway bars, but I figure it makes more sense to stiffen up the suspension first to get max value out of that
This is what i didn't understand. Anyways, a good suspension will have about.... 148,982,124,463.3x more impact to making the car good than anything being talked about in this thread. |
None of what you're talking about in here is hard. Almost none of them actually do anything in terms of performance.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1468020)
None of what you're talking about in here is hard. Almost none of them actually do anything in terms of performance.
I'm debating just throwing a 7" android head unit in, maybe some better speakers, and just enjoying it as is. Not like it sucks maybe just over time replace pieces with higher performing when rubber starts to go like the sway bar bushings, just replace the whole sway bar then. |
Stock Miatas are the best. Especially the 90-93 cars. Mazda made the best possible car.
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Originally Posted by HarryB
(Post 1467896)
I thought we had established that delrin door bushings do not increase stiffness; they just keep your doors from rattling around.
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