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Old 08-04-2014, 04:49 PM   #21
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I can appreciate that. But, even though you've done a ton of work to find the "right" springs, you know that there will be more than a few people that will want to swap them out for something else, at least to experiment. Knowing what's on there to start with will make it easier.

Honestly, I don't understand why you wouldn't just share the info. What am I not understanding?
I'll be blunt. Not much else will work on Tecnas. Stiffer springs will not only be poorly matched to the damping rates, messing up the nice handling but also make them ride worse. Tecnas aren't going to handle or balance any better then they ship. That's what I'm able to offer for $740. Non adjustable damping, one soft spring package, high quality stainless body and good internals so they last a really long time. Stiffer damping would allow stiffer springs but ride worse.

Incidentally, the damping plots of Tecnas are very similar to Xida's on the softest setting.

Just the same, if your are really committed to buying Tecnas only because you want to experiment, nothing I can tell you will help. If you change rates, the lengths will change. If you add helpers, the stack free length and stroke will change, and so on.
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I'm waiting for someone to test these back to back with fm/tokico combo and tell me they're even more comfortable. Then I'm making it rain on Emilio with one dollar billz y0
+1. I'm not jumping on this pre-order but I will be watching for reviews.
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Just the same, if your are really committed to buying Tecnas only because you want to experiment, nothing I can tell you will help.
Understood. Incidentally, I do not plan on buying Tecnas and then experimenting. But, I know it will happen. You know it will happen.
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Understood. Incidentally, I do not plan on buying Tecnas and then experimenting. But, I know it will happen. You know it will happen.
Yup. I am OK with folks taking them apart and trying to make them into something they aren't. Happens with every product we offer. I just choose not to facilitate it. If I lose a sale or two by playing our cards close to the chest, so be it. I'm not in this business to make millions. I should do something else if that were my only goal. I do this because I'm passionate about the experience and love getting to play with cars all day. I get to do things my way. If other people buy into what I do, fantastic. If not, that's OK too.
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A little update. We ended up finding a single spring solution for all weights of cars. Good adjustment range, no coil bind when adjusted per included instructions, no contact with anything and no negative preload (springs loose). So any early orders for HP or LP get the same setup. No helpers needed.

Weird rally car bump travel that freaks people out. One steep driveway and sharp bridge expansion joint that we all but catch air off of. Passengers cringe and brace. Bloop, bloop, no bottoming. We have had the proto set on 4 different cars over the last month or so. Giving lots of folks rides here at the shop, KINOD meet, our swap meet, etc. They will be on a car at Miatas at MRLS. Best two passenger responses blurted out so far:

"Witchcraft"

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"these are girlfriend friendly"
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Do want. I hope these stay in your lineup for the long haul, cause within the next year i'd like a set
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Do want. I hope these stay in your lineup for the long haul, cause within the next year i'd like a set
Absolutely. Regular stocking item once we get production rolling.
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Old 08-30-2014, 11:31 PM   #28
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just curios if they are compatible with the needle thrust bearings used with Xidas
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just curios if they are compatible with the needle thrust bearings used with Xidas
2.5" yes.
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2.5" yes.
That should be 2.25", right? Or am I missing something here?
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That should be 2.25", right? Or am I missing something here?
Tecna use 2.5" ID springs and do not ship with Torrington thrust bearings. The question seemed to be whether someone could add thrust bearings of their own supply. Answer is yes. We do not offer 2.5" bearings.
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October, November, January now? Is this gonna be like tse turbo kit?
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I want a ride in a car with these... My stock msm bilsteins with tein springs ride like doodoo
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I want a ride in a car with these... My stock msm bilsteins with tein springs ride like doodoo
MSM Bilsteins are very good. Tein Springs suck because they are too short and too weak. This means you are always on the hard rubber bumpstops or crashing into them at the slightest movement. If you would purchase some 400/300 or higher springs at least 7 inches long and with shortened bumpstops and/or ISC tophats you might be able to keep enough travel and rate to survive until some technas come to the market. See the ultimate Bilstein coilover thread for more info on that.

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"*The Tecna project is being postponed due to supplier issues in getting serial production up and running to our standards. Being 12 weeks behind delivery schedule already, we have decided to refund each customer with a pre-order in our system. We apologize for any inconvenience the delays may have caused. Those of you with orders for Tecnas will receive a cancellation and refund notice this week.
Our thanks to all those patient enthusiasts that pre-ordered, and apologies to same for not being able to deliver the product we were willing to put our name on in a timely fashion.

As of today, there is no revised ETA for this project. We will continue development offline. New information will be made public only when the full production kits are tested and in stock.*

Wish I knew the odds here. I have about five months before I need a set of coilovers.
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Just wondering how do these compare to tein ss? Can't decide on whether or not to pick up tein ss($550 from a buddy) or wait for the tecnas.
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You may want to rethink that....

"As of today, there is no revised ETA for this project. We will continue development offline. New information will be made public only when the full production kits are tested and in stock."

Those kinds of statements are rarely good but I hope I'm wrong and they get back on schedule ASAP but with such a statement made, I wouldn't be suprised if they never come to market. :(
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schucks.. On a side note teins ss with 5k miles on it for $550 yay or nay?
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I was one of the people who pre-paid back in July and stuck with it through all the delays. The Tecnas sounded like a better solution than anything else on the market for my needs and I was pretty disappointed by the latest announcement.

Emilio himself called me last Friday night to explain the situation and review some of our options going forward. I just want to say that that went a long way toward smoothing out any hard feelings and was much appreciated. He was candid and apologetic. It sounds like a tough decision to make, but ultimately the right one if the supplier couldn't build a product that he was comfortable putting his brand on.

Now I'm completely torn between a set of Xidas, Tein, or V-Maxx. My current suspension sucks *** and I've spent the weekend agonizing over my budget and what my needs really are. Still not really any closer to deciding.
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lol surely you can't be torn between xidas and tein/vmaxx
I mean tein/vmaxx sure, but xidas? that's not even in the same universe
If you can afford xidas, the answer is pretty simple
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