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Gt2560rMiata 06-07-2014 10:15 PM

Tell me not to be a pu$$y
 
misplaced my in-lbs torque wrench. I will be doing the clutch on my Miata here soon. Tell me to stop being a bitch and just torque the pressure plate bolts by hand instead of spending another $100 on a torque wrench

im guessing 95% of people here dont use a torque wrench on them ?
Luckly I still have my ftlb wrench so I can do the flywheel bolts to spec

Erat 06-07-2014 10:17 PM

Stupid fucking pussy.

1/2" Torque Wrench

RedCarmel 06-07-2014 10:24 PM

^dat

Gt2560rMiata 06-07-2014 10:24 PM

that torque wrench in the link....20-150lb range. pretty well known that torque wrenches aren't accurate at thier lower settings. The 1/2 wrench I have starts of at 20ftlb. I think I remember spec on the pressure plate bolts being 16-20ftlbs

Erat 06-07-2014 10:28 PM

You're not going to win this.

3/8" Drive Click Type Torque Wrench

Now go away.

18psi 06-07-2014 10:31 PM

or just tighten by hand like every man with hair on his balls

Gt2560rMiata 06-07-2014 10:33 PM

hmmm hand tightening them I think is a better option then a HF torque wrench ?

meh maybe ill pick up a crap ass craftsman TQ wrench

mgeoffriau 06-07-2014 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by Gt2560rMiata (Post 1137894)
hmmm hand tightening them I think is a better option then a HF torque wrench ?

meh maybe ill pick up a crap ass craftsman TQ wrench

You're not getting it.

Gt2560rMiata 06-07-2014 11:13 PM

I think i get it now... The HF suggestion was just trolling

soviet 06-08-2014 12:46 AM

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Stop being a pussy, if I assembled my engine with a no-name beam type torque wrench, then you can do it too.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1402202800

I didn't even know there is a torque spec for the pressure plate. Pretty sure mine has lock washers on it and those = tighten till they are flat.

Gt2560rMiata 06-08-2014 01:07 AM

craftsman beam type torque wrench is under $20. ill just grab one of those and some loctite and stop thinking about it

TheScaryOne 06-08-2014 01:15 AM

I bought the set from Harbor freight. I don't have a calibration tester for the 1/4 or 3/8 but the 1/2 is still good after using it for a couple years. Definitely worth the $15 or whatever it was on sale.

DaveC 06-08-2014 01:00 PM

Just tighten the fucking bolts. Torque wrenches are needed where things warp/deform when the bolts are tightened and you don't want the deformation to be too much or too little. This isn't one of those places. Here, you just don't want the bolts to come loose so tighten them like any other bolt that size. I'm assuming you can tell by feel when a bolt is tight.

Savington 06-08-2014 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by Gt2560rMiata (Post 1137912)
craftsman beam type torque wrench is under $20. ill just grab one of those and some loctite and stop thinking about it

New HF wrenches are typically more accurate than new Craftsman wrenches. HF torque wrenches have been compared to SnapOn when it comes to retaining their calibration over time. Craftsman does not fare as well. Stop whining, go to HF, pick up a 3/8" torque wrench, and torque the bolts.

Gt2560rMiata 06-08-2014 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1138041)

New HF wrenches are typically more accurate than new Craftsman wrenches. HF torque wrenches have been compared to SnapOn when it comes to retaining their calibration over time. Craftsman does not fare as well. Stop whining, go to HF, pick up a 3/8" torque wrench, and torque the bolts.

Just did alot of googling. Youre right. many reviews i read where people had thier HF wrenchs tested they were right on spec

No lift 06-08-2014 09:16 PM

Hot rod magazine did a comparison a year ago and found the harbor frieght to be within the same tolerance as Matco snapon craftsman etc. the new wrench will be 15$ with the 20% off coupon

mgeoffriau 06-08-2014 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Gt2560rMiata (Post 1138051)
Just did alot of googling. Youre right. many reviews i read where people had thier HF wrenchs tested they were right on spec

And circle gets the square.

triple88a 06-08-2014 10:01 PM

Tighten it as hard as you can. If you're not as strong, use a 4 foot long extension bar and you'll be fine. Dont trust torque wrenches, they are for pussies. Hell i broke the 3/4" bit on the front of it last time i rented one from my local napa so cant trust them to get my parts tight enough.

Gt2560rMiata 06-08-2014 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1138067)
Tighten it as hard as you can. If you're not as strong, use a 4 foot long extension bar and you'll be fine. Dont trust torque wrenches, they are for pussies. Hell i broke the 3/4" bit on the front of it last time i rented one from my local napa so cant trust them to get my parts tight enough.

Oh i only have a 3ft cheater bar. Think i can get them tight enough??? Guess i could go as tight as i can with the cheater then weld the bolts to the pressure plate so they won't come loose

triple88a 06-08-2014 10:14 PM

Btw vatozone rents torque wrenches.

sixshooter 06-08-2014 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by Gt2560rMiata (Post 1138073)

Oh i only have a 3ft cheater bar. Think i can get them tight enough??? Guess i could go as tight as i can with the cheater then weld the bolts to the pressure plate so they won't come loose

Hire some immigrant laborers to help you. That's the only way to get it done right.

Gt2560rMiata 06-08-2014 10:56 PM

Living in Ca and working full time im already helping pay for thier 6 children to eat. Might as well get something out of them right?

Rallas 06-10-2014 01:23 PM

I did a calibration check on all three of my HF torque wrenches (1/4", 3/8" and 1/2") and they were all within 5% of set value, even at the upper an lower limits it remained within 10% of the set value. My 1/2" was close to 8 years old at the time and had seen many track days, autocrosses, drops and falls and still worked great. For anything you are doing in your garage this will be fine. You will have a greater difference in clamping force on those bolts due to variances in friction on the different bolts and bolt holes.

My 3/8" torque wrench varied the most. I feel more comfortable using the 1/2" at the lower end of its range than using the upper end of the 3/8" wrench.

concealer404 06-10-2014 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Gt2560rMiata (Post 1137898)
I think i get it now... The HF suggestion was just trolling

No, it's not. Numerous tests have shown those torque wrenches to be quite accurate. Certainly plenty good for the kindergarten shit you're doing.


Buy all three for under $50. Lose them whenever you want, since you don't seem to care enough about keeping track of a $100 tool.

DaveC 06-12-2014 03:38 PM

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link to coupon

Tried to post an image, but HF has it split into three sections. pita. Try link.

hornetball 06-12-2014 04:40 PM

Don't be a pu$$y.

I use a torque wrench on everything. Even valve cover bolts. It satisfies my OCD.

rleete 06-12-2014 04:48 PM

Actually, VC bolts are a very good place to use one. I've seen them way over-torqued, which can warp the cover, causing leaks. It's only inch-pounds for those nuts.

Gt2560rMiata 06-12-2014 04:54 PM

I picked up a HF 3/8" torque wrench. Going to check it against a coworkers SnapOn before trusting it

concealer404 06-12-2014 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Gt2560rMiata (Post 1139517)
I picked up a HF 3/8" torque wrench. Going to check it against a coworkers SnapOn before trusting it


When was the last time the SnapOn was serviced?

hornetball 06-12-2014 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1139516)
Actually, VC bolts are a very good place to use one. I've seen them way over-torqued, which can warp the cover, causing leaks. It's only inch-pounds for those nuts.

Truth. My VCs never leak.

Leafy 06-12-2014 08:00 PM

There's a torque spec on the pressure plate bolts? I just tighten them till the washers are flat with some blue loctite.

I have a 1/4" drive inlb torque wrench I bought on amazon for $40 that I use for the valve covers and oil pans, and other inlb things. Its what I had to do to make them not leak. Then I've got a 3/8" drive crapsman bending beam for 3/8" drive torque stuff. And of course the 1/2" drive HF one for lugnuts and other stuff that dont need bending beam precision. Except for wheel bearings. Then I do the math to calculate the torque and stand on the correct point of the breaker bar because I'm tired of killing front wheel bearing from them being under torqued by the HF wrench.

TheScaryOne 06-12-2014 08:06 PM

3/4" Torque Wrench

Leafy 06-12-2014 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by TheScaryOne (Post 1139565)

I've never seen one of those in the store before. Damn.

rleete 06-12-2014 08:39 PM

They had 3/8", 1/2" and 3/4" all on the shelf when I bought mine. As I remember, they were all priced at $11.99 each.

With coupon, of course.


Which they had laying next to the bin with the wrenches.

triple88a 06-12-2014 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1139567)
I've never seen one of those in the store before. Damn.

I broke mine when i tried to get the nut off the rear axle :facepalm:

Staffah 06-12-2014 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Gt2560rMiata (Post 1139517)
I picked up a HF 3/8" torque wrench. Going to check it against a coworkers SnapOn before trusting it

You serious?? Stop being a bitch and use the tool you bought.

TheScaryOne 06-12-2014 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1139584)
I broke mine when i tried to get the nut off the rear axle :facepalm:

Wat? Torque wrench is for installing. Breaker bar is for removing, with Cheater Pipe (aka Jack Handle).

good2go 06-13-2014 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by TheScaryOne (Post 1139565)

From the specs:

Product Length 33-1/2 in.

Damn, that's definitely a torque monster.

EDIT: apparently it only works in clockwise direction, but a reviewer mentioned you can disassemble and flip the head around for CCW torquing.

triple88a 06-13-2014 01:50 AM


Originally Posted by TheScaryOne (Post 1139588)
Wat? Torque wrench is for installing. Breaker bar is for removing, with Cheater Pipe (aka Jack Handle).

I know, didnt have a 3/4" breaker bar so i used the torque wrench. Hurray for 3 months return warranty. :fawk:


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