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1990miata1.6 05-10-2009 01:50 AM

tire setup
 
hi what do you guys think of these tires and the fit in my 99nb stock suspension. these are the tires i want in the back 225/45-16 16 Inch Toyo Proxes R1R Tires - Tire Size & Price Details - 1010tires.com

and here are the tires i want on the front 215/45-16 Kumho Ecsta XS)

the 205/40-16 are just way to small.http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...97065_4456.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...97075_8027.jpg

magnamx-5 05-10-2009 01:58 AM

Needs more wider 255 or better. Why dont you run 225's all the way around aside from alil inner fender rubbing on my car it works fine. Understeer is dangerrous give me oversteer any day that is a hell of a lot more predictable.

1990miata1.6 05-10-2009 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 406780)
Needs more wider 255 or better. Why dont you run 225's all the way around aside from alil inner fender rubbing on my car it works fine. Understeer is dangerrous give me oversteer any day that is a hell of a lot more predictable.

what year is your miata?

Miatamaniac92 05-10-2009 02:20 AM

Different sized tires/wheels equal fail in a Miata.

Can't go wrong with the EcstaXS though.

Chris

1990miata1.6 05-10-2009 02:26 AM


Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92 (Post 406788)
Different sized tires/wheels equal fail in a Miata.

Can't go wrong with the EcstaXS though.

Chris

how are the ecstaXS are they as good as every one says. also what size ecstaXS are you running.


the biggest tire i have ever run on a miata is 235/45-17 on a 90 i used a baseball bat to fix the rubbing :giggle:

magnamx-5 05-10-2009 02:26 AM

1992

1990miata1.6 05-10-2009 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 406790)
1992

oohh na miata less rooms which means i should be able to fit 225 in front seeing how the nbs have more room, what size rims you got if there 15 im sol.

magnamx-5 05-10-2009 02:38 AM

15*7 enkei rpf1's 225-50-r15 i think they are 24 inches tall in total 23.9 listed height http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.j...um%3D25VR5GFSP
and yours are similiar sized 16 inchers in the same width are .1 shorter http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.j...m%3D245WR6048M you should be fine.

1990miata1.6 05-10-2009 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 406794)
15*7 enkei rpf1's 225-50-r15 i think they are 24 inches tall in total 23.9 listed height Tire Specs for BFGoodrich g-Force Sport
and yours are similiar sized 16 inchers in the same width are .1 shorter Tire Specs for Yokohama ADVAN A048 you should be fine.

so i should be fine for front and back 225/45-16 then

i have been using this to find a good size Wheel / tire size calculator / comparer - RIMS-N-TIRES

magnamx-5 05-10-2009 03:50 AM

i go by the factory specs man not all tires are measured as truely as wel like 100% of the time but yeah you should be fine worst case scenario you wear a hole in you fender liner in hard high speed cornering nothing serius though. Either as your tires wear down or the hole gets right sized it stops. For instance that site shows me with a 7 inch raod contact across i assure you i end up with more in the neighborhood of 8 inches on my tires.

1990miata1.6 05-10-2009 04:10 AM

yoo i was using the site more for finding what height tires would work best

Miatamaniac92 05-10-2009 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by 1990miata1.6 (Post 406789)
how are the ecstaXS are they as good as every one says. also what size ecstaXS are you running.


the biggest tire i have ever run on a miata is 235/45-17 on a 90 i used a baseball bat to fix the rubbing :giggle:

I love em. I am running the 205 50 15's.

They are awesome at the track. Very linear/controllable breakaway.

Chris

Braineack 05-10-2009 01:26 PM

It's not ALL about the width, Richie Rich. IIRC the contact patch is 8.3" vs. 8.6"

The 215/45/16 is already large enough (diameter). That's exactly the tire I just picked up. But I dont see a reason to mix-and-match the compounds and widths. It is really worth the extra $175 for the rear tires?


I'd also like to see you fit the 225/45/16s up front, I know we couldn't fit a 225/50/15 on a lowered miata, and the 225/45/16 is the same diameter, 24". I'm worried about my 215/45s fitting...

9671111 05-10-2009 01:44 PM

staggered = mad respekt.

magnamx-5 05-10-2009 01:55 PM

i dunno scot my tires where only 105 apeice i got em on sale. A wider tire set to the right air pressure will allow more traction period. If i could find light weight 10 inch wide rims afford them and knew i wouldnt twist my frame and tranny to peices i would run 300+'s. Even if it stuck out a few inches.

1990miata1.6 05-10-2009 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92 (Post 406882)
I love em. I am running the 205 50 15's.

They are awesome at the track. Very linear/controllable breakaway.

Chris

sounds good

Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 406895)
good luck finding a 225 that will work. It's not ALL about the width, Richie Rich. IIRC the contact patch is 8.3" vs. 8.6"


the 215/45/16 is already large enough (diameter). That's exactly the tire I just picked up.

i dont do a lot of road racing mostly drag racing so i need hook up off the line. the only 225 that will work a bfgoordrich tires and the toyo r1r. im going to stop buy town fair tire and see a friend and have him throw on a toyo r1r to test fit it in the front and back. if they fit front. and back ill do that if they fit only in the back then ill run them in the back and run the 215/45-16 ecsta XS in the front

Originally Posted by rccote (Post 406901)
staggered = mad respekt.

yes staggered is blazing

1990miata1.6 05-10-2009 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 406903)
i dunno scot my tires where only 105 apeice i got em on sale. A wider tire set to the right air pressure will allow more traction period. If i could find light weight 10 inch wide rims afford them and knew i wouldnt twist my frame and tranny to peices i would run 300+'s. Even if it stuck out a few inches.

you mean a nice tire like this BFGoodrich g-Force T/A Drag Radial 2 :giggle: but yes price is key i can get the toyo r1r in 225/45-16 for 130 buck each

Miatamaniac92 05-10-2009 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by 1990miata1.6 (Post 406904)
sounds good

i dont do a lot of road racing mostly drag racing so i need hook up off the line. the only 225 that will work a bfgoordrich tires and the toyo r1r. im going to stop buy town fair tire and see a friend and have him throw on a toyo r1r to test fit it in the front and back. if they fit front. and back ill do that if they fit only in the back then ill run them in the back and run the 215/45-16 ecsta XS in the front

yes staggered is blazing

Why not: Run same size tires and compounds for the street and track. Get a pair of cheapo 15's or 16s wheels/tires for the strip.

I'm betting staggered tires (especially compounds) will cause crazy handling nightmares. Shit, even drags up front also would be a better solution. Atleast then you'll be closer to neutral setup.

Chris

1990miata1.6 05-10-2009 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92 (Post 406937)
Why not: Run same size tires and compounds for the street and track. Get a pair of cheapo 15's or 16s wheels/tires for the strip.

I'm betting staggered tires (especially compounds) will cause crazy handling nightmares. Shit, even drags up front also would be a better solution. Atleast then you'll be closer to neutral setup.

Chris

i wanted to find cheap wheels to run slicks but i can only afford tires =[

Doppelgänger 05-10-2009 05:59 PM

Why not run the same size f&r? The aerodynamic drag and unsprung weight difference between the two tire sizes does NOT make enough of a difference to justify running a different size/compound.


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