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18psi 01-26-2012 10:43 AM

+1 that's what I was getting at

vehicular 01-26-2012 11:20 AM

My point wasn't that it's a waste of time to do this stuff, but that it's a band aid. No Miata engine makes enough outright torque to strip the teeth off the gears in a Miata 5 speeds. People break them with sharp cyclic loads and impact damage. SO, if you use a reasonable clutch, and drive with a little mechanical empathy, it should last MUCH longer with these mods. If you put a 7.25" unsprung ceramic clutch in it, and/or drive it like a retard, you're probably going to break transmissions no matter what you do to them.

Cookiesoup 01-26-2012 12:52 PM

^i agree completely. there will always be a week point. if you drive it like an ass hat you can break anything.

i used to mod subarus and people always said the trannys were like glass but i ran about 250 at the wheels on a stock tranny and a friend ran about 350 for almost 90k miles and stripped second gear trying to do a drag launch.

Boost Joose 01-26-2012 02:15 PM

How much would people on here pay for a bulletproof tranny? I mean I bet if you got like 10-20 people to commit Quaife would sell the sets for under 2k a piece probably closer to $1500 and that's only 2 6 speeds for a 500+hp gearset.

18psi 01-26-2012 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Cookiesoup (Post 826713)
^i agree completely. there will always be a week point. if you drive it like an ass hat you can break anything.

i used to mod subarus and people always said the trannys were like glass but i ran about 250 at the wheels on a stock tranny and a friend ran about 350 for almost 90k miles and stripped second gear trying to do a drag launch.

Whats your point?
The 02-07 wrx 5 speeds are very fragile. Gears are long, and fd is super tall and engine is very torquey which results in stripping gears past 300whp. My 07 went at 360wtq without a single launch or fast shift. Just eased into the throttle and shaved 3rd clean off.

You make power you break things.
What OP is trying to do is to possibly prevent future breakage by taking precautionary measures.

Originally Posted by Boost Joose (Post 826761)
How much would people on here pay for a bulletproof tranny? I mean I bet if you got like 10-20 people to commit Quaife would sell the sets for under 2k a piece probably closer to $1500 and that's only 2 6 speeds for a 500+hp gearset.

I bet you'd lose that bet lol.
But feel free to contact them and find out;)

Boost Joose 01-26-2012 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 826766)
I bet you'd lose that bet lol.
But feel free to contact them and find out;)

Ummm yea.....I've already got a set....so unless I'm getting brokerage dues, I have no incentive. :giggle:

18psi 01-26-2012 02:48 PM

If I was kaisersoze I'd just get a quaife and call it a day. Lord knows he's already invested buckets of cash into his super sweet msm, I don't see how another 2k or whatever it is, is going to really break his wallet. lol

Faeflora 01-26-2012 03:17 PM

Boost juoce we need 800hp capable gearbox. Not 500.

I had no idea that curlyq thing was for coolong. I took it out and did SS LINE syraight from clutch and it was awesoem. One of the best mods i have done.

vehicular 01-26-2012 03:29 PM

Its bleeding impossible to get that damn thing bled if you ever get air in the system. I delete them on every car i do clutch work on.

Boost Joose 01-26-2012 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 826791)
Boost juoce we need 800hp capable gearbox. Not 500.

By "we" I think you mean "you" haha (because no one else in their right mind is going put more than 500 hp in a miata) props either way though.

and hell, it might be able to withstand 800, I just doubt you'd be able to hook up 800...

Boost Joose 01-26-2012 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by vehicular (Post 826799)
Its bleeding impossible to get that damn thing bled if you ever get air in the system. I delete them on every car i do clutch work on.

Hmmm....I just picked up a stock 93 and sometimes I can push the clutch to the floor without it enguaging.....is it most likely do to this line with air in it somewhere?

vehicular 01-26-2012 05:01 PM

If it's intermittent, it's probably a dead slave.

Boost Joose 01-26-2012 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by vehicular (Post 826862)
If it's intermittent, it's probably a dead slave.

Thats what I thought but the PO claims to have replaced the slave?? I was thinking there could be some air in the line bc most of the time it drives fine but a couple times a week so far it's gets iffy. I really have not clue exactly wwhat it could be....do slaves work at times and then just quit then work again??

vehicular 01-27-2012 12:02 AM

Some times. If it's a new factory slave, then it could very well be the master. Is fluid disappearing over time?


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