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emilio700 03-19-2009 03:40 PM

Tubular control arms @ 949Racing
 
These are pics of the pre-production samples.
http://www.949racing.com/productimag...arms_miata.jpgRear control arms
http://www.949racing.com/productimag...arms_miata.jpgFront control arms

Weights are about 3lbs lighter per corner than OEM.

Additional camber adjustment is done with OEM alignment eccentrics at the front lower ball joint. In the rear, the outer pivot on the upper control arm also accepts an OEM eccentric bolt. Not pictured here are the proprietary 95A (very hard) urethane bushings and OTS upper ball joint which will be included in the kits. Made in the USA for exclusively 949Racing by V8 Roadsters. Yes, they are orange powder coat. Pricing not set yet but expect them to be very reasonable. They will also be available individually for you STS2 guys.

These are are intended to bridge the gap between exotic spherical bearing arms for an E production car that are already available elsewhere and the flexy and heavy OEM arms while offering the increased alignment range.

We should be shipping the first kits beginning of May. Taking order in the next few weeks. Email us to be put on the mailing list. Come check them out at MRLS.

hustler 03-19-2009 04:49 PM

lol, now I know why my friend emailed me offering to sell his control arms. :)

Doppelgänger 03-19-2009 05:21 PM

mmmmmmmmmmmm yummy

BenR 03-19-2009 05:33 PM

Win.

juxt3r 03-19-2009 07:52 PM

Those would be pretty pimp when matched up to the V8Roadsters tubular subframe (coated to match, of course). :) Once my engine rebuild is out of the way, I'll definitely look at these a bit more!

The_Pipefather 03-19-2009 07:57 PM

Emilio,

Any plans to make a drop upright to correct the stupid amounts of lateral roll center migration when lowered? I know the investment isnt justified, but you were thinking about casting a new head at some point ;-)

wrc2tuning 03-20-2009 11:24 AM

I am definetly in.......as long as I can get them non-awesome red orange....... i.e. black

Machismo 03-20-2009 11:40 AM

Hail to the King! ;)

BenR 03-20-2009 11:41 AM

Any way these will have zerk fittings pre installed?

BenR 03-20-2009 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by wrc2tuning (Post 384592)
I am definetly in.......as long as I can get them non-awesome red orange....... i.e. black



http://www.choiceful.com/prod_image/68463_m.jpg

wrc2tuning 03-20-2009 02:15 PM

Oh yeah, Spray Paint FTW baby!

j_man 03-21-2009 02:16 AM

Awesome!
Btw, I agree with the rest on the color. Black powdercoating should be much better

DragonsMaw 03-21-2009 09:15 AM

Interested, mostly since the upper control arm's bushing is replaceable. Bumped mine into a curb and it's been a little squeaky ever since.

DazedandConfused 03-25-2009 04:57 PM

completely awesome. sign me up for front AND back :D

miatamania 03-25-2009 05:06 PM

Estimated Price?


I'd be down for a set if I don't end up broke as hell by the end of the semester.

UrbanSoot 03-25-2009 06:00 PM

im interested

Ben 03-25-2009 06:24 PM

A lot of win there Emilio.

Are you going to have NA and NB versions available?

DazedandConfused 03-25-2009 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 386612)
A lot of win there Emilio.

Are you going to have NA and NB versions available?

careful or he might release the bomb saying they are NC only. :laugh:

ormand 03-31-2009 03:29 PM

Any other color choices? :)

slutz4 03-31-2009 05:01 PM

I dont see why people care about the color so much, if they come powdercoated who cares what color they are. Its under the car anyways.

ormand 03-31-2009 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by slutz4 (Post 389064)
I dont see why people care about the color so much, if they come powdercoated who cares what color they are. Its under the car anyways.

I'm a clean freak and it looks really bad when red gets dirty. And control arms aren't exactly the easiest thing to get to when cleaning.

Satin Silver plz.

emilio700 03-31-2009 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 386612)
A lot of win there Emilio.

Are you going to have NA and NB versions available?

Universal. Geometry is the same. NB front spindle geometry is different but the 949Racing drop spindles will be one universal version too.

Ben 03-31-2009 08:01 PM

what about sway bar mounts?

emilio700 03-31-2009 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 389151)
what about sway bar mounts?

The front sample picture doesn't have one but the production arms do of course.

Ben 03-31-2009 08:17 PM

I assumed. But the sway mounts are different NA and NB.
Hence my original question.

emilio700 03-31-2009 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 389160)
I assumed. But the sway mounts are different NA and NB.
Hence my original question.

Clevis mount. I suspect anybody using these arms will have adjustable end links, not the stud type OEM NB links that like to go kerpow! on the track.

zoomin 03-31-2009 09:20 PM

still no pricing available?

Ben 03-31-2009 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 389171)
Clevis mount. I suspect anybody using these arms will have adjustable end links, not the stud type OEM NB links that like to go kerpow! on the track.

You are probably correct.
I'm curious to see the cost of the package.

DazedandConfused 03-31-2009 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by zoomin (Post 389179)
still no pricing available?

emailed him earlier about this........prices to be determined

miatamania 04-01-2009 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 389180)
You are probably correct.
I'm curious to see the cost of the package.

As am I...an overhaul of the suspension is def coming up next.

solidBP 04-03-2009 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 389141)
Universal. Geometry is the same. NB front spindle geometry is different but the 949Racing drop spindles will be one universal version too.

When do you expect production and sales of spindles to begin? Are you still developing the part?

Fidgitk 04-03-2009 02:24 PM

The pricing listed on the website is ~$1800...
Seems a bit high...

emilio700 04-03-2009 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Fidgitk (Post 390703)
The pricing listed on the website is ~$1800...
Seems a bit high...

Perhaps beyond the budget of some racers, but far less than any other full set of eight USA made tubular control arms with balls joints. For what you are getting, the price is a great value.

I think the availability of junk Chinese Honda control arms for half that clouds the issue. There is no comparison in terms of design, engineering, materials quality, finish, QC, precision or function.

thagr81 us 04-03-2009 02:54 PM

Emilio makes a good point... I got quoted at >$2000 for a full racing set of tubular control arms which also required custom fitting and mounting on top of the purchase cost. So for the money, you can't beat this IMO...

mtbgael 04-03-2009 03:49 PM

So think here, guys. A full poly bushing set for F/R control arms (until the Energy suspension kit came out not long ago) was what? $450+? These come with hard bushings, ball joints, eccentrics....That knocks easily $600 off the top of the price right there, as you are completely overhauling your suspension in "replacing the control arms". Awesome work, as usual Emilio. Keep it up!

UrbanSoot 04-03-2009 06:32 PM

hard bushings = no flex = no need for toe in on rear?

crashnscar 04-03-2009 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 390853)
hard bushings = no flex = no need for toe in on rear?

No. WRONG :loser:

emilio700 04-04-2009 01:57 AM

Now taking orders
 
Now taking orders for the first production run of 10 sets due late May.

Pricing and complete info on the website.

modernbeat 04-04-2009 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 390853)
hard bushings = no flex = no need for toe in on rear?

It means LESS toe in the rear, approaching zero toe (but not equal to zero toe) if it used delrin or other very hard bushings.

fmowry 04-04-2009 09:05 AM

Just an FYI. Steve at V8roadsters is an engineer and a lot of thought and number crunching goes into the design of their parts. It's not just some dude in his garage with a welder. If the quality of these is on par with the k-member, they will be great.

Frank

firedog25 04-05-2009 03:04 PM

MAN! I need to rebuild an engine and now you come out with these?

<sigh>Overtime it is...

emilio700 06-16-2009 01:18 PM

Production Update:

The tubular control arm sets are being made to order. When this first large production run gets here in a few weeks, they will all be spoken for. After that its 4-6 weeks to fill any order.

So if you have been considering a complete or partial set, you need to get your order in soon if you want them in July.

emilio700 08-18-2009 09:09 PM

Full production version

http://www.949racing.com/ProductImag...cing_Miata.jpg

magnamx-5 08-19-2009 01:19 AM

ok sticker shock got me at first but after reading abit more, seems like a hella nice product. GL emilio


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