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-   -   V8R vs stock NB miata lower control arms side by side (https://www.miataturbo.net/suspension-brakes-drivetrain-49/v8r-vs-stock-nb-miata-lower-control-arms-side-side-102862/)

Dietcoke 05-07-2020 09:46 PM

V8R vs stock NB miata lower control arms side by side
 
I actually looked for a similar comparison a few months back and couldn't find one. The uppers are similar enough but the lowers aren't even close. I'll post the fronts tomorrow. Finally got all the bushings off the car.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...addfbd1c02.jpg

Dietcoke 05-08-2020 10:23 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0cd3f5c6d7.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f9cb724b38.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6bd936f673.jpg

Dietcoke 05-09-2020 07:49 PM

Interestingly, the V8R pieces are actually slightly heavier then stock by a couple ounces, not pounds lighter as advertised. The bushed ones may be a bit lighter, but big solid rod ends are indeed heavy.

https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...fd&oe=5EDCED9E

https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...53&oe=5EDB1761

Twibs415 05-11-2020 08:07 PM

Noted the same things when I swapped mine. Also got refunded for the trash x-life rear upper arms and had to buy the normal rear uppers

Dietcoke 05-12-2020 02:59 AM

I think the x-lite were a great idea in theory, but they missed the mark on a few aspects of design for sure. Wouldn't put them on my car. Surprised no one makes BMW-esque forged aluminum arms for these cars.

themonkeyman 05-12-2020 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Dietcoke (Post 1570453)
I think the x-lite were a great idea in theory, but they missed the mark on a few aspects of design for sure. Wouldn't put them on my car. Surprised no one makes BMW-esque forged aluminum arms for these cars.

The OEM BMW arms are cast aluminum, not forged. Casting is totally an economy of scale, doing a small batch run of ~500 (doubt you could even sell that many to Miata owners) would likely be very expensive. Not counting R&D work. BMW makes it work ordering 30,000 at a time I'm sure.

Dietcoke 05-12-2020 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by themonkeyman (Post 1570484)
The OEM BMW arms are cast aluminum, not forged. Casting is totally an economy of scale, doing a small batch run of ~500 (doubt you could even sell that many to Miata owners) would likely be very expensive. Not counting R&D work. BMW makes it work ordering 30,000 at a time I'm sure.

They're deffo forged, friend. Have owned enough M cars to know.

18psi 05-12-2020 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by Twibs415 (Post 1570426)
Noted the same things when I swapped mine. Also got refunded for the trash x-life rear upper arms and had to buy the normal rear uppers

oh ok so 2lb lighter +/- 20lb?

themonkeyman 05-13-2020 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by Dietcoke (Post 1570520)
They're deffo forged, friend. Have owned enough M cars to know.

M cars might be, we can agree to disagree on the regular ones.

Dietcoke 05-13-2020 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by themonkeyman (Post 1570572)
M cars might be, we can agree to disagree on the regular ones.

regular cars are stamped steel.

Twibs415 05-13-2020 12:49 PM

You guys are missing the point. V8r is a little out of touch with their claims.


Midtenn 05-13-2020 02:07 PM

It's almost like formed steel is a has a great cost to strength ratio while maintaining reasonably low weight when properly designed. Most Miata owners are about the costs effective methods.

jpreston 05-13-2020 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by themonkeyman (Post 1570572)
M cars might be, we can agree to disagree on the regular ones.

2004 BMW brochure says forged aluminum front lower arms on a 325i.

http://www.auto-brochures.com/makes/...dan_2004-1.pdf

pman9003 06-01-2020 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Dietcoke (Post 1570044)
I actually looked for a similar comparison a few months back and couldn't find one. The uppers are similar enough but the lowers aren't even close. I'll post the fronts tomorrow. Finally got all the bushings off the car.

Can you post the differences between the uppers or if the difference are of any consequence? I was thinking of getting a set of the tubular uppers this winter.

Dietcoke 06-01-2020 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by pman9003 (Post 1572609)
Can you post the differences between the uppers or if the difference are of any consequence? I was thinking of getting a set of the tubular uppers this winter.

The v8r uppers are a lot thinner - that is, more shock clearance. They have an outer eccentric (rear) and a nice replaceable balljoint (front). Have nothing but good things to say about them, and the price is right.


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