V8R X-Lite control arms: some assembly required
I figured I would put this info out there to make the arms easier to use for those who choose to buy them, and provide some honest feedback for those considering buying.
TIP #1 (RUCA): the OEM pivot bolt does not fit at the outboard location, as the machined clevis is thicker than the OEM arm. Solution: M10 x 90mm bolt and matching M10 x 1.5 nut. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a1e81b45d3.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d222875220.jpg |
TIP #2 (RUCA): the roll center adjustment does not actually adjust roll center.
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TIP #3 (RUCA): The arm hits the body much earlier than the stock arm, before the tire even makes contact. Use the not-roll-center "unibody clearance adjuster" to improve this radically. This will get you to full tire contact for most setups, and a little massaging of the contact zone on the body can make some breathing room.
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TIP #4 (FUCA): The arm contacts the unibody before tire rub with 225/45R15. Contributing to this is the fact that the rod end is offset from the midplane of the arm, presumably to shift the bump/droop limits of the range of motion of the spherical bearing serving as the UBJ pivot.
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that's terrible. seriously terrible
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TIP #5 (FUCA): Flipping the arm (logo down) radically increases body clearance. However, it moves the UBJ spherical bearing closer to bind at full bump relative to the stock orientation. A number of solutions can be used to correct for this, including shimming the height of the spherical bearing. However, I chose to substitute a true high-misalignment spacer (a modified version of a QA1 SN12-68) and an AN-7 bolt for the stock SHCS + counterbored, lower misalignment spacer.
Note in the first photo that the head of the SHCS had to be turned to fit the top spacer. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...50dc78637f.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2c0ff9acde.jpg |
TIP #6 (FUCA): Maybe throw some loctite retaining compound on the UBJ spherical.
Stock fit (turn headphones to max for full effect): TIP #7 (FUCA): Also maybe get steel jam nuts to replace the aluminum jam nuts for the rod ends. |
Tire clearance when
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Originally Posted by afm
(Post 1500561)
TIP #6 (FUCA): Maybe throw some loctite retaining compound on the UBJ spherical.
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Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 1500564)
Hey @afm, what flavor loctite do you recommend on that ubj spherical?
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TIP #7 (FUCA): If you use the stock hardware, make sure the SHCS head sits fully in the counterbore of the spacers. Turning the bolt heads is a fun drinking activity but maybe not a good solution.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...31c40f0d5f.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e9ce2f5fd3.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d081e650b0.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ffa9d9779a.jpg Pictured: essential suspension installation tools. |
Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 1500564)
Hey @afm, what flavor loctite do you recommend on that ubj spherical?
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V8R is fully refunding you fort this utter garbage . Right???!!!
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1500565)
Ask your pro suspension builder.
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Originally Posted by afm
(Post 1500549)
TIP #2 (RUCA): the roll center adjustment does not actually adjust roll center.
http://media.beliefnet.com/~/media/p...jpg?as=1&w=400 --Ian |
Positive note: FUCA clearance like a hotdog in a hallway!
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8c56562e6e.jpg |
THAT MAKES EVERYTHING WORTH IT
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Those aren't Xidas. I deem that irrelevant.
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does it fit with extended bj's doe?
also TIP # 69: this is the ONLY way of communication with v8r. please do not attempt futile outdated ways like telephone and email, you have been educated https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a73a585f45.jpg TIP # 69.5: the pigeons should all be routed to Concealer404's house, NOT Florida. |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1500582)
Those aren't Xidas. I deem that irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by afm
(Post 1500591)
Yeah, I think they're Racelands or something. Came free on my car.
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