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Xidas
You fuckers better be right. Im about to spend more than 1/2 as much on shocks/springs than I paid for my miata.
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you'll enjoy them
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Yeah but how much did you just spend on all your turbo shit? And what good is all that if you can't control it.
Besides compared to your konis these will blow your mind. |
Omg konis? I have those. You'll think you we're on solid steel bars. Cause I thought that when I tried my friends off the shelf bilstiens.
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Originally Posted by Gt2560rMiata
(Post 974510)
You fuckers better be right. Im about to spend more than 1/2 as much on shocks/springs than I paid for my miata.
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My biggest disappointment with the Xida's is that I only got to put about 1000 miles on them (and 1 track day) before I put the car in storage for the winter.
You will love them. They are heaven. Oh and get the dual springs if you can. I wish I did. I will be upgrading in a season or so. |
Originally Posted by 240_to_miata
(Post 974569)
My biggest disappointment with the Xida's is that I only got to put about 1000 miles on them (and 1 track day) before I put the car in storage for the winter.
You will love them. They are heaven. Oh and get the dual springs if you can. I wish I did. I will be upgrading in a season or so. Learn me. |
Originally Posted by MicaCeli
(Post 974588)
By dual spring you mean the helper springs? What is it about helper springs that Miata people are so crazy about? A shock correctly valved for the spring is all you really need, are you getting that much corner lift that you need droop springs so that the spring doesn't rattle?
Learn me. Yes helper springs. and yes..without them the springs do come unseated occasionally. |
Originally Posted by MicaCeli
(Post 974588)
By dual spring you mean the helper springs? What is it about helper springs that Miata people are so crazy about? A shock correctly valved for the spring is all you really need, are you getting that much corner lift that you need droop springs so that the spring doesn't rattle?
Learn me. I drove my car with non-Xida ASTs on single springs and Crusher back to back at Hallett, Crusher was a bit more planted over the #10 washboard at Hallett. I recently changed suspension and now have the double springs but haven't driven the car yet. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 974610)
It's about putting the inside wheel on the ground, without pre-loading the main spring. It also lets you eat-up tiny little bumps (inside wheel) without upsetting the car.
I drove my car with non-Xida ASTs on single springs and Crusher back to back at Hallett, Crusher was a bit more planted over the #10 washboard at Hallett. I recently changed suspension and now have the double springs but haven't driven the car yet. |
Ill be getting Helpers with mine. I want to do it right the first time.
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Helpers shouldnt be compressed. If they are then there wasnt a point to run helpers.
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Only thing I think I have left that I need to figure out is if im going to need to use the extra bushings on mine so I can actually have the helpers do their job instead of being full compressed at full droop just to reach my desired ride height
Id like to be around 11.75-12" ride height, forgot what the hell that is in pinch weld measurement. but my fenders are stock anyways |
This might help. From a thread here in 2011.
Helper springs have a nearly zero-rate and the purpose is to prevent the main spring from going slack as full droop is approached (and in going slack, unseating or moving around). They have no effect on ride or handling other than to prevent the main spring from unseating and re-seating suddenly. Helper springs are fully-compressed (coil-bound) at static ride height. Tender springs typically range from 100 to 200 lb rate and the purpose is to create a dual-rate setup in which the suspension travel includes a lower combined rate (according to the (A X B) / (A + B) = combined spring rate formula) as well as a higher spring rate once the tender spring is fully compressed (at which point the main spring rate takes effect). This results in a more compliant ride than is possible with individual high-rate springs and a greater resistance to roll than is possible with individual low-rate springs. Tender springs are not fully-compressed at static ride height. |
Doesn't help at all. this isn't new info to me..... thanks though
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Originally Posted by Gt2560rMiata
(Post 974723)
Only thing I think I have left that I need to figure out is if im going to need to use the extra bushings on mine so I can actually have the helpers do their job instead of being full compressed at full droop just to reach my desired ride height
Id like to be around 11.75-12" ride height, forgot what the hell that is in pinch weld measurement. but my fenders are stock anyways |
Originally Posted by Gt2560rMiata
(Post 974732)
Doesn't help at all. this isn't new info to me..... thanks though
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