Dodge Demon!
 

So what's everyone's take on this thing?

I admire dodge for having the balls to actually produce it and make it street legal! 9sec 1/4 mile pulls the wheels stock! It's a good time to be a car enthusiast!

Dodge site: 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon - #ifyouknowyouknow

I think it's pretty crazy, but it takes away from "built not bought". Anybody with a good credit score can just go buy one and be the guy that says "hey look at my 4 inch boner" (because small dick).
I'd rather be the guy with the 12 second Miata, that I built. Cause I only have a 4" dick too (when I fold it in half).

I mean... I guess you can build/tune the demon too.

I wonder if it has a predilection for crowds....

Cool engineering I guess. I would gladly drive one but I would never own one.

I drag raced pretty seriously for quite a while, and the achievement is just astounding. It's amazing where technology has brought us, and I have to give Dodge credit for having the balls to build something so totally bonkers to sell to the public. And it's street legal!

That said, I don't think I would buy one, short of having Jay Leno money... and the room to store it. And that's where most of these will end up: with wealthy collectors who drive them a couple times a year. Sure, there's going to be some knuckleheads who have deep enough pockets to buy one, and will plow it through the landscaping after the local C & C. But it's just so totally freakin' nuts I gotta love it.

Bravo Zulu, Dodge!! :party:

I commend Dodge as well for producing something so extreme.

However, I was doing some reading and watching, and the quarter mile "record" is unachievable. They ran that pass without a backup, and at an impossible density altitude of like -1300ft at a drag strip that usually has a 1200ft density altitude due to the high humidity in the area.

Also, they produced the car for one purpose... to run the quarter mile as fast as possible, but they didnt build it to NHRA safety regulations, so owners literally cant even go to the dragstrip unless they put a cage and proper harnesses in it. Pretty dumb in my opinion.

Your average joe owner is not going to hit their times at the drag strip. And it can legally run 10s all day long at the strip. I bet you can get plenty of runs out of it without getting kicked out.

I think it is awesome. I love randomly coming across some old special edition on the street or parking lot and then reading about cool small batch stuff. Today's market (industry agnostic) really doesn't promote this type of development by businesses that actually have the reasources or expertise required for success.

Its not about it being realistic or practical or even logical. This is about marketing and getting people's attention. And id say it worked. Kudos to doge :)

I love it because it is unabashedly American.
It's the car we all daydreamed about as kids come to life.

P.S.
I am relieved that the finished product does not look even remotely like this old concept.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0bf80906f1.jpg

When manufacturers engage in horsepower wars, we all win.

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Exactly what Vlad said.

I'll also add that I think the lack of roll cage is deliberate. I mean, those who know what's going on will say it's stupid... but for normal people, how badass is "It's so fast you can't even legally run it on the drag strip!"

You can add that to list of "Shit Demon owners say"

I am significantly irritated by the people who say "it's not that impressive, so-and-so built a fox body mustang that did 9's in the quarter for less than $30k" because that's just fucking stupid. This car is turn key, street legal, from a major manufacturer, with a warranty. It's badass.

Do not want, but badass.

Most 250hp miatas are too fast to run at the strip. You need a roll bar.

round here we've been trapping 132mph and as long as we keep it above 11.5 ET they don't care
we achieve this by running crappy tires and spinning 3/4ths of the way down :dealwithit:

Hard top?

yup :D

Yes, these are amazing times. I never thought the late-60s would return. God Bless 'MURICA and all our oil!! (Of course, it took Italians to give the go ahead.)

Back in those days, the cars were built for a specific race class (Super Stock) and sold to racers. Now they are being sold to a limited group of baby boomers with coin (our equivalent of European aristocrats). So, it really is the Italian business model.

We make the Air-to-Water chiller setup (along with the rest of the heat exchangers) for the demon/hellcat where I work. The power figures fell right where I was guessing they would in the low-mid 800's. Its a really neat feat of engineering and props to dodge for funding it for the elite few that will be able to afford it.

At the end of the day, all I want is an affordable sub-2500 lb 300whp track legal 2 seater. That couldn't be further from what the demon is. Give me a BRZ STI, factory turbo ND with a trans that doesn't hate itself, or a new s2000.

What do they mean by highest/fastest xyz of any production car ever?

That precludes comparison of some of the Porche's, Bugatti, Teslas with Ludicrous plus?

It runs the quarter mile faster than any other production car ever. Thats all they claim.

The site states:
Highest HP of any production car
Highest G-Force by a production car
First wheelie by a production car
Worlds fastest 0-60 production car
Fastest 1/4 mile production car

I can't click open anything else (work blocked), but some pretty wide claims otherwise. Sounds terrifying

I'm guessing they don't count hypercars as production cars.

Well its quicker in the quarter mile than a veyron. And the latest Tesla.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_acceleration

And if you sort that list by the manufacturer claimed times then its the fastest to 60.

I'm pretty sure they did some fact checking before making those claims lol

Highest HP is weird though.

All they do with that is exclude shit til it's true.

"Fastest gasoline powered production car"

​​​​​​"Most HP of any non-hybrid production car"

​​​​​etc

exclude everything with less than xxx production volume, etc.

I'm also kinda proud of them for picking a theme (drag racing) and sticking to it, rather than try to hit every market and muddying the car up to the point that it doesn't know what it is.

I think the race gas tune is over 1000 hp or at least I think I heard that.

Lol, I see a few didn't like my Mustang meme. I saw it on a facebook group I belong to and thought it was funny.

It always disappointed me that Dodge hasn't made bigger waves in the amateur drag racing scene. Ford is absolutely dominating it lately. Its pretty hard to beat the mustang design and cost to build a very competitive car.

I would love to see more Dodges winning races, but am not so sure this car is what it will take. What they need is a cheap, lighter chassis, and a powertrain that is inexpensive and plentiful to modify that works well against other variants available.

Nothing better than going to a good race with lots of car diversity and not knowing which manufacturer will be taking home the prize.

Nope, the HP/TQ claims are all done on 100 octane. You use a special key and unlock that tune, otherwise you get lower numbers.

Well, I would assume the car would make at least some additional power on c16 or e85, but I'm not sure about tuning solutions yet.

The wheelie claim is pretty awesome though because it basically screams that their traction control sucks or is totally off haha.

Who uses traction control at a drag strip?

Wait, I don't understand this one. Doing a wheelie means it has amazing traction? Or no?

'Xactly. Amazingly good traction. Good enough to lift the front of a 4000#+ car and put all the weight on the rear tires!

You can do the gxsr brah things you used to do before your wife made you sell the motorcycle!

The guys who end up in the wall definitely don't!

I'm probably the only person capable of getting neg catted on a thread in the bs section. Hahaha.

You gaiz...

Edit: I may have posted those things last night after drinking...