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sixshooter 06-26-2019 06:41 AM

Leftist governments something something something.

Tran 06-26-2019 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1540080)
Leftist governments something something something.

This is probably a factor, but I think the biggest is politicians being seen to be doing something, rather than actually being helpful.

Of note, I found two pictures of the 225s on 9s. Oddly the first doesn't look as stretched as the second!

225/9 left, 245/9 right.


225/9 on the second picture

Tran 06-27-2019 06:01 PM

I bought 245s. Will see how I get on. Suspect I'll need a 5mm spacer and it won't be ideal on a 9J, but it was either that or an over stretched 225 AR1 or some crappy Federals.

Bispo 07-10-2019 07:48 AM

Can you mount these in 225 on a 15x8 6UL ?

Midtenn 01-17-2020 01:19 PM

Some thread necro. Anyone had any experience on these. Thinking about running these this year as a gap between Super 200's and Purple Crack.

ooja3k 01-17-2020 01:20 PM

very good bang for the buck. relatively heavy but decently sticky. fills that TW gap perfectly based on my experience

Sensei 01-17-2020 11:36 PM

A local guy ran them in place of Hoosiers last autocross season (on 11”uls)- everyone who drove the car all rated em 70-80% the grip of A7s. I think you’ll be quite happy- if you follow Greg Peters they are his next set of tires, so I’m sure a review from him will be coming.

hf-mx5t 01-18-2020 02:05 AM

ill be putting a set of 245s on my car but winter.. no testing until closer to summer. .

Midtenn 01-20-2020 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Sensei (Post 1559952)
A local guy ran them in place of Hoosiers last autocross season (on 11”uls)- everyone who drove the car all rated em 70-80% the grip of A7s. I think you’ll be quite happy- if you follow Greg Peters they are his next set of tires, so I’m sure a review from him will be coming.

Nothing against Gregg Peters, but I doubt his review will be very relevant to what I do with my car.

muoto 01-20-2020 12:34 PM

There's few track videos of my Miata running 245 nankangs and Bmw ZF 6speed on my youtube channel, more videos coming soon https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6N...YfpYkgyhN1XoQ/


yossi126 01-20-2020 07:08 PM

I have it albeit at a 205. Noisy af on the street. Very heavy tire that also induces nvh.
Plenty of grip but very "understeery". Had to have a 4 click difference back to front to balance the car.

hf-mx5t 02-20-2020 06:56 PM

We got a batch of these for our cars now. Still winter here but testing this summer.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3306db1aa.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...495372c95.jpeg

emilio700 02-20-2020 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by hf-mx5t (Post 1562670)
We got a batch of these for our cars now. Still winter here but testing this summer.

We tested those last year against the RC1 and Toyo RR in the same size. Controlled test, 3 drivers, same car, stickers, pressures optimized.
RR was fastest and dealt with overheating the best. Far more precise steering than other two.
RC1 (old compound) was roughly tied with AR1 for laps. Best AR1 lap was faster but average of best 10 about the same. RC1 took 5-8 turns to come back after being overdriven.
AR1 had worst steering response. Not terrible, just not quite as good as RC1 and nowhere near as crisp as RR. AR1 also took 5-8 turns to come back after being overdriven. Pyro temps on AR1 were nuts, 220-240°f

RR was fastest on 1st or 2nd lap. If cooled for a whole lap, we could match that best lap in the same session. The RC1 and AR1 were always fastest on 1st lap then impossible to match that lap no matter how much we pedaled it. That indicates a compound and casing that develops its best grip way below 200°, like a street tire. Wear on AR1 was severe. Less wear on RC1 and almost no wear on RR.

In short, the AR1 is a cheap, low tech but very sticky street tire. The RC1 is about the same but runs much cooler, indicating it would have a longer cycle life. The RR is a real race tire. A good driver on the RR's could click off endless laps that match the best AR1 and RC1 laps.
AR1 a good time attack and cheap HPDE tire. RC1 a better budget race tire. The RR the best combo of wear, grip, response but they are not cheap. You get what you pay for.


hf-mx5t 02-23-2020 02:47 PM

Sound about right for my high power(400+ whp) street driven car that sees the occasional trackday use then. the RC1, and RR isnt really something i can use for street use in norway. It needs to have some thread pattern, and E markings, and be available here. ill consider the RR if i go for a extra set of wheels just for track use :)

256chilipepper 08-11-2020 04:42 PM

Any one tried these at autocross? Curious to if they would heat up quick enough to be better than a Rival S, or if they are more in line with the old NT01s. 245s or 225s for that matter.

emilio700 08-11-2020 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by 256chilipepper (Post 1578604)
Any one tried these at autocross? Curious to if they would heat up quick enough to be better than a Rival S, or if they are more in line with the old NT01s. 245s or 225s for that matter.

They heat up fast. More like a Rival-S 1.5 than any other 100TW

Tran 08-27-2020 04:50 AM

Had some disappointment yesterday. First session on my new 245 AR1s, bringing them in gently for first heat cycle, did 3 laps, came in to check pressures an front left low (clockwise circuit). The tyre had failed and was letting air out, so that was the end of my day!

Has anyone else seen this or should I just categorise this under bad luck?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...689bbd1c0c.jpg

sixshooter 08-27-2020 07:32 AM

Looks like a possible belt separation. Am i seeing the face of the tire has a swollen area?

If so, that is commonly caused by either a cut in the belts in that area from bead to sidewall to tread to other sidewall to the other bead or from striking an object at speed. I have seen a tiny cut in a sidewall cause a massive bulbous body in the tread.

It's good you were attentive to your tires and/or the feel of the car and didn't get hurt.

emilio700 08-27-2020 10:35 AM

Unless I am missing something, this just looks like a puncture. There is no bulge indicating a casing or tread separation. That is a fairly large puncture. I would scrap the tire.

Tran 08-27-2020 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1579881)
Looks like a possible belt separation. Am i seeing the face of the tire has a swollen area?

It's good you were attentive to your tires and/or the feel of the car and didn't get hurt.

No swollen area, just that damage. Yep, could have been a lot worse. Also lucky I had a spare to get home, I often don't take one!


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1579894)
Unless I am missing something, this just looks like a puncture. There is no bulge indicating a casing or tread separation. That is a fairly large puncture. I would scrap the tire.

I haven't seen a puncture like this before, but I can't see what else it could be. All the other punctures I've seen on track either have clear witness marks or something visibly still in there. Agreed, at least it happened on the first heat cycle so I can get away with only 1 tyre rather than needing a full set.


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