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Der_Idiot 08-14-2013 12:32 PM

15x9 wheel fitment: VarrStoen V1
 
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Hey guys, got a quick question for the more experienced in this area. I currently have some Konig Helium 15x6.5 wheels and Dunlop Star Spec 205s and I want to move up to 15x9 wheels. I love me some 6ul like everyone else, but I can't be stuck waiting weeks or months for a spare if I bend a wheel. I've been looking into the VarrStoen V1 for my Miata and was wondering if their 15x9 +25 wheels would fit without pulling. I do plan to remove the wheel well liners and roll the fenders though.

Anyone know if I'd need spacers or anything to make this work, or unrealistic levels of camber? They do weigh almost 2 pounds more per wheel compared to a 15x9 6ul, a 4.2 pound increase from the 11.4 pound Helium. I plan on putting 225's on them and don't want to rub if at all possible. I might stick my 205's on them and do a slight stretch on them until I get some 225 tires later on.

Current setup:
Tokico Illumina w/ FM Ground Control setup
FM sways
Adjustable Endlinks
12" front, 12.5" rear ride height

The wheels in question on another NA:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1376497943

On another car for comparison (16x8 w/ +25):
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1376497943
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1376497943
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1376497943

The important part since I have to parallel park; spokes don't stick out so no curb rash:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1376497943

soviet 08-14-2013 12:36 PM

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I run 15x8 +20 with 205/50 as daily driver. Flat fenders and it, imo, barely fits.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1376498166

Savington 08-14-2013 01:21 PM

15x9 +25 will work if you have a LOT of camber front and rear - at least 3*.

FYI, Emilio keeps a small supply of spares, so even if they're "sold out" current owners should be able to buy a single wheel if they bend one.

Der_Idiot 08-14-2013 01:30 PM

I did not know that. Triple the production!

hustler 08-14-2013 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 1043508)
I run 15x8 +20 with 205/50 as daily driver. Flat fenders and it, imo, barely fits.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attat.php...ine=1376498166

povertywheels.jpg

Leafy 08-14-2013 05:12 PM

But you're not going to get -3* of camber with stock control arms without going hella low. Just buy the correct offset or pull the fenders.

Savington 08-14-2013 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1043656)
But you're not going to get -3* of camber with stock control arms without going hella low. Just buy the correct offset or pull the fenders.

3* of camber at ~4.0" front ride height is perfectly obtainable.

soviet 08-14-2013 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 1043635)
povertywheels.jpg

:dealwithit:

Leafy 08-14-2013 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1043699)
3* of camber at ~4.0" front ride height is perfectly obtainable.

Yes but thats too low unless you want a lot of rake or like breaking axles or just don't drive hard.

WreckHouse 09-22-2013 09:45 PM

my 16s look much better on the Miata than the 15s I think

Savington 09-22-2013 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1043730)
Yes but thats too low unless you want a lot of rake or like breaking axles or just don't drive hard.

For your specific, narrowly defined application, you might be right. I suspect you're talking about your SM2 car, which has specific issues that don't apply to 99.999% of other cases. Not sure why you insist on constantly applying your narrow experiences to every setup situation you come across?

For the vast majority of applications and users, 4.0" front ride height is not too low.

Leafy 09-23-2013 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1056086)
For your specific, narrowly defined application, you might be right. I suspect you're talking about your SM2 car, which has specific issues that don't apply to 99.999% of other cases. Not sure why you insist on constantly applying your narrow experiences to every setup situation you come across?

For the vast majority of applications and users, 4.0" front ride height is not too low.

Thats actually from AWR, too low in the rear = broken axles. And the other car was in the 4.25" area and breaking axles left an right. I'm higher than that because something is different in my front end that brings the tires in closer than average. I'd love to be able to run 4" front, but I'd like to keep my tires off the tub.

Also,

Originally Posted by WreckHouse (Post 1056070)
my 16s look much better on the Miata than the 15s I think

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/you...427_152339.jpg

Savington 09-23-2013 02:14 AM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1056090)
I'd love to be able to run 4" front, but I'd like to keep my tires off the tub.

I don't understand why you think your experience with 275/35 Hoosiers is relevant in a thread specifically discussing 225/45s on a 15x9 wheel on a street car. :facepalm:

nitrodann 09-23-2013 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WreckHouse (Post 1056070)
my 16s look much better on the Miata than the 15s I think

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1379919938

Dann

pdexta 09-24-2013 08:42 AM

I'll probably get another 20 negative props, for recommending anything less than a 9" wheel, but have you looked at goodwinracing's Konig options?

They're light, cheap, and have several options in 15x8 (even the same TE37 rippoff design you're looking at), will require less work to fit, you can still run 225's, plus you get the benefit of buying from a really really good vendor that's also supports MT.

Erat 09-24-2013 08:53 AM

How can i be the first and only one to say not to buy from this rip off, fake, shit company?

z31maniac 09-25-2013 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1056466)
How can i be the first and only one to say not to buy from this rip off, fake, shit company?

Because putting a of Volks on a $3000 car is dumb?

If you don't like them, don't buy them. It's relatively simple.

Erat 09-25-2013 06:30 PM

That's not the point. The point is that this company is a bunch of rip off scammers. Fuck them.

z31maniac 09-25-2013 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1057027)
That's not the point. The point is that this company is a bunch of rip off scammers. Fuck them.

And?

Seefo 09-26-2013 01:05 PM

I have a hard time believing you will fit 225 on x9 without pulling the fenders...I would play it safe and get the x8 w/ 225s or just take the time to pull the fenders.

Then again...buy the shit put it together and make it work. I think its reasonable to get 225 on x9 wheels to work with some effort on your part. Why don't you want to pull the fenders?


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