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90 Turbo 03-02-2012 06:36 PM

best autocross tire/dd for 7 inch rim
 
What is the best tire at a decent price under 100 a piece thats available( rs3 are not) for auto cross and dd. Decent wear would be nice.

thanks

Slider 03-02-2012 07:30 PM

Nothing in that price range if you want to be competitive. Kumho XS is close to that price, handles heat very well isn't as good in the rain as the RE-11s or Star Specs.

90 Turbo 03-02-2012 07:45 PM

Ok how about 120 a tire. I can get proxies for that I think also dunlop direzza are under 100 how are they. Escta ast's are cheap how are they?

palmtree 03-02-2012 07:59 PM

Well are you looking for a 14" wheel or a 15"?

Seefo 03-02-2012 08:01 PM

AD08, star specs..

flier129 03-02-2012 08:01 PM

Star Spec Z1?

Slider 03-02-2012 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by 90 Turbo (Post 842530)
Ok how about 120 a tire. I can get proxies for that I think also dunlop direzza are under 100 how are they. Escta ast's are cheap how are they?

You can get Dunlop Direzza Star Specs for around that price, great tires. I have them myself. Other choices include the Advan AD08, Bridgestone RE-11, or Kumho XS. Best street tires for autocross.

The regular Direzzas are ok in the dry, bad in the rain. Spend a little more and get much better tires. It's the part that keeps your car on the road.

90 Turbo 03-02-2012 11:17 PM

how do toyo proxes compare

pdexta 03-03-2012 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by 90 Turbo (Post 842530)
Escta ast's are cheap how are they?

I had them on my car for a little while and they're well below a lot of the other tires mentioned performance wise. I actually didn't feel like they were horrible for straight line traction, but they certainly did not like to turn. If you're going to autocross on them you'll be miserable.



Originally Posted by 90 Turbo (Post 842601)
how do toyo proxes compare

R1R's are great all around IMO but they're going to wear quick. T1R's are mediocre are overpriced.

doward 03-03-2012 09:41 AM

Any of these options are great:
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/art...-tires-part-2/
Ive used the R1R, XS and RE11 on my car and like the re-11 best for street use. I have 195/50 on some 15x7.5 wheels. I also have a set of 225 R1R that I have on some 9" 6uls.

As much as i hate them, TireRack has 205/50/15 Sdrives at 94+ship and XS' at 104.

jtpaintballwdp 03-03-2012 10:12 AM

Another vote for Star Specs, I love mine they are a really good all around tire IMO.

flier129 03-03-2012 10:49 AM

R1R's are the fastest, but wear a lot quicker than a Z1. On a STS car anyways, so add some more power and they'll wear even quicker. They're also a tad more expensive.

sccaax 03-03-2012 01:36 PM

Dunlop star specs hands down. Key was you said DD and autocross, which means they need to be good in the rain and not wear out really fast. No better tire out there in my opinion. I've had Azenis (old/new), Kumho MS/XS and a few others. Can't afford the fast wear tires and most dry compounds will kill you in the wet. Good luck.

gearhead_318 03-03-2012 01:50 PM

I like my Yoko S-Drives.

palmtree 03-03-2012 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by Gearhead_318 (Post 842746)
I like my Yoko S-Drives.

+1 for an inexpensive decent multi-purpose tire with a better treadwear than the Star Spec(save money). You won't be throwing down FTD at an autocross, but you can still be competitive and have fun with the s.Drives

Seefo 03-03-2012 10:31 PM

^Sure, you can be competitive at the back of the field.

EO2K 03-04-2012 07:06 PM

Take a look at what the competitive guys run at your autoX events are running, its usually a pretty good indicator.

I'm running 195 sDrives on stock NB 15x6's while I'm still in the rainy season. I got them brand new from a local forum member for way less than retail or I would have done the Star Specs. The sDrives seem to be a very competent daily driver tire, but not when compared to what the more "dedicated" autoX guys run.

I'm running 225 RS3s on a set of 15x8 6ULs when I want to have fun, but they seem to hydroplane like a beeeeotch in the rain. I wish I had a set on 15x9s tho... :(

mattman3k 03-04-2012 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Track (Post 842873)
^Sure, you can be competitive at the back of the field.

If you're at the back of the field then you probably just suck. If you're a good driver you should be competitive with any decent tire. I just got a set of Star Specs and I'm happy with them on the road so far. No autocross events yet though to give an opinion on that subject. I just did a similar poll on clubroadster.net.

http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=57172

Seefo 03-04-2012 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by mattman3k (Post 843214)
If you're at the back of the field then you probably just suck. If you're a good driver you should be competitive with any decent tire. I just got a set of Star Specs and I'm happy with them on the road so far. No autocross events yet though to give an opinion on that subject. I just did a similar poll on clubroadster.net.

http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=57172

more of a figure of speech than meant to be literal.

hornetball 03-04-2012 08:25 PM

If you're looking at an S-Drive class tire, you should also consider the BFG G-Force Sport. That's what I'm running now, and I like them better than the S-Drives I had before.

mattman3k 03-04-2012 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Track (Post 843216)
more of a figure of speech than meant to be literal.

I figured. But it is true. More then likely if you're at the back of the field then you probably just suck in comparison.

90 Turbo 03-05-2012 12:38 AM

I got a screaming deal on some rims and tires.
16x7 konig's with the new redesigned azenis 205/40r16 Tires are basicly new (can still read azenis in the tread) 1500 miles two and from hallet where he switched to r comps. Decide to make it a trailer queen and sold me these for 500.

How much do the azenis suck?

90 Turbo 03-05-2012 09:21 AM

Well based on the comparison posted Looks like I got the slowest of the high performance tires. I guess I will be ok with that. The rims look great and I got the whole set for what a set of tires would have costed shipped and mounted to my old paint chipping beat up AR rims. I will post up a pic of before and after later. At least I can get a set of rs3 for these rims pretty cheap when these wear out.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Z222&tab=Sizes

Slider 03-05-2012 11:54 AM

RS3s in that size would be much taller than stock, more than 2 inches difference in diameter. The tire selection is kind of limited in 16s. The Azenis are pretty good, much better than their old compound, they'll be great for autocross.

Seefo 03-05-2012 12:45 PM

if you are talking about 615ks then they are better than the S drives which aren't in the same summer tire group.

With that said, they are probably the last of the autocross summer tires I would use. I didn't like the old 615s and while the new 615k fixed some of the problems with the 615s, they still don't have the outright performance that the star specs can provide.

Certainly no big deal though, at this point you will find most autocrossers are not consistent enough for it to matter. Lastly, if you got a good deal on them, then they are certainly worth it.

90 Turbo 03-05-2012 01:17 PM

Ok so that would be a 1.78 inches difference from the 205/50/15 if i went with the .78 wider 225/50/16 in rs3's and .8 taller than the 205/50/16 that are on there now. I guess once I throw them on I will see what they look like. Anyone have any experence with the 225/50/16 rs3 on an NA or on the track?

Just asking I am going to stick with this for quite a while. The rims are lighter than my 17lb American racing 15's so I hope I have not increase unsprung weight but I dont know.
The rims are the konig brite lite
http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda...t/60-1313.html

owenwilliams 03-05-2012 01:35 PM

Just FYI:
Toyo T1Rs have a pretty bad rep over here for having a very flexy sidewall. Probably a bad choice for autocross because of that.

Yoko AD08s won a UK magazine tyre shootout a couple of years ago. The control car was a NC MX5. I still don't think they'd be as fast as some other choices available in the US for the money, but in terms of steering feel, and other wishy washy subjective stuff that you Americans don't seem to care about :party: they are apparently quite hard to beat.

Seefo 03-05-2012 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by 90 Turbo (Post 843525)
Ok so that would be a 1.78 inches difference from the 205/50/15 if i went with the .78 wider 225/50/16 in rs3's and .8 taller than the 205/50/16 that are on there now. I guess once I throw them on I will see what they look like. Anyone have any experence with the 225/50/16 rs3 on an NA or on the track?

Just asking I am going to stick with this for quite a while. The rims are lighter than my 17lb American racing 15's so I hope I have not increase unsprung weight but I dont know.
The rims are the konig brite lite
http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda...t/60-1313.html

You won't find many people using 16s here.

225/45/15 are used frequently.


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