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Pita 11-17-2016 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by stefanst
And our shipping department just did me a favor and asked for commercial shipping of your wheels/tires from here to Essen and that would only be $500....

Hm... that sounds better. I will consider it - depends on the vendors' replies. Still, with 1100$ for wheels plus shipping you come close to the guys in Britain. In that case I would of course try to do you a favor. But 500$ shipping is still a lot, I first wanna see if I can find a cheaper option. Plus I haven't even got the car yet, so I got time to decide what to do :)

Thanks again for your efforts!

NiklasFalk 11-17-2016 03:38 PM

Added six 15x9" to the collection during the winter, about $1000 plus $250 in shipping and tax.
Piggybacking on a friends container shipping helps, but it takes time.

philstireservice 11-17-2016 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Pita (Post 1375412)
Hm... that sounds better. I will consider it - depends on the vendors' replies. Still, with 1100$ for wheels plus shipping you come close to the guys in Britain. In that case I would of course try to do you a favor. But 500$ shipping is still a lot, I first wanna see if I can find a cheaper option. Plus I haven't even got the car yet, so I got time to decide what to do :)

Thanks again for your efforts!


Check out these guys...https://philstireservice.com/

endura 11-17-2016 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by NiklasFalk (Post 1375322)
The advantage or having the same size all round, when you kill the two to the left with a barrier contact, you can place the survivors on one axle instead.

And you can use it to shift the balance, 9" gives more grip than 8" for identical 205s.

Interesting. I really wanted to try the Pirelli Trofeo R, didn't want to raise the car for the 225/50 so got the 205/50/15. I only have 15X7's and 15X9's. Tried them on the 7's and they were fast, but felt horrible. Out of curiosity, I mounted them on the 9's to see if there's a lap time difference, sometime next week.
Did you end up changing pressures when going from 8's to 9's? My static stretch looks pretty much like your loaded 205 on the 9. What's the tread/casing width on the 205 kumhos?
OP-apologies for threadjack.

Pita 11-18-2016 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by NiklasFalk
Added six 15x9" to the collection during the winter, about $1000 plus $250 in shipping and tax.
Piggybacking on a friends container shipping helps, but it takes time.

Well, if only such a friend existed :D


Originally Posted by philstireservice
Check out these guys...https://philstireservice.com/

I will. These guys... I saw the name of the website somewhere else, but I can't remember where exactly... but it was definitely on this forum... maybe another user? ;)


Originally Posted by endura
Interesting. I really wanted to try the Pirelli Trofeo R, didn't want to raise the car for the 225/50 so got the 205/50/15. I only have 15X7's and 15X9's. Tried them on the 7's and they were fast, but felt horrible. Out of curiosity, I mounted them on the 9's to see if there's a lap time difference, sometime next week.
Did you end up changing pressures when going from 8's to 9's? My static stretch looks pretty much like your loaded 205 on the 9. What's the tread/casing width on the 205 kumhos?
OP-apologies for threadjack.

Threadjack - no problem mate :) I'm happy that I am not the only one in this thread asking questions ;)
From what I know the 7" wheels seem like the OEM size for 205s. Adding an inch or two should improve grip, as NiklasFalk already said earlier before. In which way did they feel horrible? Maybe a result of the softer tirewall in comparison to a tirewall on a wider wheel? I don't know, I'm no expert at tires. But that's the only possible reason I can think of at the moment. I guess you used the right pressures. Keep us updated when you have tried them out on the 9s, would like to know if you could notice a difference and how it felt afterwards :) Hopefully not "still horrible".

DaWaN 11-18-2016 04:48 AM

One very similar discussion was held recently on this forum:
https://www.miataturbo.net/wheels-ti...-200bhp-90783/

I am wondering what your goal is here. Personally I just drive for fun on the track and absolute speed is less of a concern. I will run 15x8J wheels and for tires probably Nankang NS-2R Soft (120TW i.i.r.c.) in 205/50/15. Spending more than 1000 euros on tires and wheels for just having some fun is too much for me. For the wheels, I will probably just run the very cheap Japan Racing (JR-3) 15x8 ET25 wheels. They cost around 100 euros a piece i.i.r.c. Yes, they are Taiwanese / Chinese copies and yes they are not the best wheel in the world, for the money I think they are fine.

Pita 11-18-2016 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by DaWaN (Post 1375575)
One very similar discussion was held recently on this forum:
https://www.miataturbo.net/wheels-ti...-200bhp-90783/

I am wondering what your goal is here. Personally I just drive for fun on the track and absolute speed is less of a concern. I will run 15x8J wheels and for tires probably Nankang NS-2R Soft (120TW i.i.r.c.) in 205/50/15. Spending more than 1000 euros on tires and wheels for just having some fun is too much for me. For the wheels, I will probably just run the very cheap Japan Racing (JR-3) 15x8 ET25 wheels. They cost around 100 euros a piece i.i.r.c. Yes, they are Taiwanese / Chinese copies and yes they are not the best wheel in the world, for the money I think they are fine.

I would like to get the Advanti Storm S1s the cheapest way possible and some nice tires that I can also buy in Germany. I won't be on the track every weekend. I just love the look of those wheels, that's why I want to get them. 1 pound of unsprung weight more or less wouldn't make a difference that I am able to notice. I am also constantly looking at alternative wheels, but yet I couldn't find any that I liked as much as the S1s. As for tires, the Hankook R-S3s are no longer an Option, as they are not available here. The thread title might be a bit misleading now. I think my best option are the Toyo R1Rs, which I can get here for ~90 € each. They offer a very good performance in the dry, I won't spin everytime I go around a corner in the wet and they don't cost too much. I would maybe pay 15-20€ less for normal street use only tires.

I hope that answers the question. Sorry, I might have drifted a bit off-topic while replying to the other posts :) I just enjoy talking about any car-related topic.

NiklasFalk 11-18-2016 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by endura (Post 1375513)
Did you end up changing pressures when going from 8's to 9's? My static stretch looks pretty much like your loaded 205 on the 9. What's the tread/casing width on the 205 kumhos?
OP-apologies for threadjack.

No difference in pressures, I set the same cold pressure with dry air and it just works.
No idea what the width is in reality, they fit with a little stretch, no creativity needed when fitting either (unless you use 10 year old tires, then you might need to shock them on).

Pita 11-18-2016 07:39 AM

What do you think about those wheels? I got an offer by a vendor 130km from my town - 1.000€ for the wheels plus Toyo R1Rs installed. These are Advance R230s in 15x8. I quite like them :)

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6cb52c6f5f.jpgAdvance R230 15x8

damir130 11-18-2016 08:15 AM

Those are ~14LBS for a 15x8. That's reasonable imho. With stock power consider running those R1R's in 195-50-15, they are a quicker compound than the larger sizes.

Pita 11-18-2016 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by damir130 (Post 1375606)
Those are ~14LBS for a 15x8. That's reasonable imho. With stock power consider running those R1R's in 195-50-15, they are a quicker compound than the larger sizes.

I also think 14lbs is alright. The S1s would be 3lbs less, but way more expensive when you include shipping. I don't think I will stay at stock power for too long, maybe I'll boost the car in the next winter :) But interesting to know, didn't find that anywhere. I guess quicker compound = not as soft -> more durability?

Would be nice too. I just saw that the 195/50s cost like 25€ each less than the 205s. Maybe I will just buy the first set in 195/50 and then use them as long as I can with more hp, then just buy the next set in 205/50.

Thanks for the tip mate :)

Zaphod 11-19-2016 11:49 AM

Hi, this is my car.... :-) I really like the wheels and those Advan tires, but might have to go for some 15x9 wheels with a 225 tire due to running a EFR 6258 at 1.2 bar. The 205 are barely up to the task to get grip at that powerlevels...

What's the vendor you are talking about? SPS Motorsport?

Pita 11-19-2016 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Zaphod
Hi, this is my car.... :-) I really like the wheels and those Advan tires, but might have to go for some 15x9 wheels with a 225 tire due to running a EFR 6258 at 1.2 bar. The 205 are barely up to the task to get grip at that powerlevels...

What's the vendor you are talking about? SPS Motorsport?

Wow, awesome! Didn't expect someone to say "that's my car" :D I love the looks of your car, there are some nice little details like the tinted indicators... Which tires will you be running at 225/45? Same model?

Yes, I have talked to SPS Motorsport. Got your wheels there too? They've been very nice to me so far.

Zaphod 11-20-2016 03:50 AM

The wheels will be 225/45 - but I don't know which one atm.


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