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Powdered RacingHarts
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Well, same dude who sold me the blue NB Auto also hooked me up with a set of 17" RacingHarts off his MazdaSpeed (FREE!! :eek5: ) They were a silver with some rash, but took them to a local guy and had him powdercoat them Titanium, slight rough texture. IMHO, they turned out great.
Emilio also clued me in as why NOT to PC alloy rims due to annealing factors making them weak - I had no clue and luckily I did not do it on my 6uls - doubtful these will see anything but street pavement. Just 1 of the set - in shade and in sunlight... These will go on the NB and it will be painted a titanium/black combo - tsatefully of course ;) https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1351627598 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1351627598 |
Those look nice. I might do that to the ones on my speed aswell because the PO rashed all four of them and they have areas I cannot seem to get clean no matter what.
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What did it cost you to have them powder coated per wheel?
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There's a reason why the rims were given away free - they're bloody heavy and make the ride extremely harsh.
I want to kick the marketing guy in the nuts that decided to put 17" rims on the MSM. Most MSM guys "upgrade" to 15" rims and count that as one of their best modz (me included). |
Yup. 17's are terrible.
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Horrible weight - horrible. I can't wait to rock 'em :)
He also gave me the msm's suspension too - no cock sucking - just a reach around. Its cost me $50/rim. On a side note - the daily is more for looks/fun over funstionality - that's the job of the track car. I just wanna be like Doppelganger. |
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At least to me, 17s on a Miata make it look like a donk.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1351689644 |
Originally Posted by GeneSplicer
(Post 944986)
On a side note - the daily is more for looks/fun over funstionality - that's the job of the track car. I just wanna be like Doppelganger.
Unless you don't care about comfort? I'm not trying to bum you out about em, just warn you that it might not be a bad idea to ditch them while they're all pretty. I had a set of 17's on my 1st miata when I just got it....Took em off after just 1 week. |
The 17's are definitely too large and heavy but they aren't terrible wheels. However, I am not spending $50 a wheel to make them prettier. Guess I'll just have to wait until I can afford some 6UL's or konig flatouts.
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I'll take your words guys - will let you say 'told you so' later - if it's any rougher than the koni/GCs 500F/300R rates I had on the '93 on 15s, then I'll get rid of them.
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$50 per wheel is not a bad deal. I just spent just over $60 a wheel for powder coating a set of 15x7 jeep wheels.
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I think I pull off 17"s pretty well.... |
Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
(Post 945607)
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I think I pull off 17"s pretty well.... |
Your toilets spin backwards, so your opinion doesn't count.
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lol - haters be hating... my feelings are hurt gays.... no, not really.
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More info on the annealing plz?
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Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
(Post 945803)
Your toilets spin backwards, so your opinion doesn't count.
I love your car but 17" rims on an MX5 are for photo-shoots and hard-parkin' builds only, their ride/handling is crap. |
With some sawzaw treatment you can probably make them work pretty good.
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i have always wanted a set. I dont know what i just thought a set on my 01 brg would look good since i have the msm lip.
let me know if you hate them i may take them off your hands. |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 945928)
More info on the annealing plz?
A little thread from m.net [NB] Powdercoating weakens wheels? - MX-5 Miata Forum not that this makes his words 100% accurate... Many of the cast aluminum wheels use an alloy that is pretty much in line with a 6061 type composition (reasonably corrosion resistant) and for those in a -T6 type condition, I would expect the effects to be minimal. If we look at the strength at temperature and at the residual strength loss tables following exposure in the MIL-HDBK-5/MMPDS for 6061-T6 following exposure at 400° F for , there is a knockdown in ultimate tensile strength (Ftu) of about 4% and pretty much no knock down in tensile yield strength (Fty). Flipping over a couple of pages to the effect on percent elongation, again pretty much no impact which would tie in with the information regarding Fty. Even if we bump the exposure up to ten hours at 400° F, the residual strength knock downs are still in single digits for that material. I realize that we are talking wrought product vs cast product and there are some behavior differences but in general, they follow the same trends. I know that there are some wheels out there made from casting alloys that instead of being solution heat treated and aged (the -T6 above for example) are solution heat treated and overaged as part of the production process (generally done to increase corrosion resistance but at the expense of strength) and I would expect to see more problems with those if run through an additional heat cycle. |
I think they would look really good on a Miata.
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Here they are on the daily - snapped a cell pic before loading up for trubo install...
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They look great on twilight blue :)
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looks great
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i think they look awesome.
Now that i am in the midst of a v8 swap i always wonder if 17x9 or x10 is an option for some decent street rubber over the 225/15s |
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Not really unless you're going to cut/flare the fenders. The problem with 17"s as I have found, is that there is a great selection of tires and sizes, but they all have a significantly larger diameter and make fitment difficult. The 225/45 15" has a diameter of ~23". The 215-40/17 tires I run are 23.9". Try to go bigger with 17" tires and you run into the 25" diameter mark very quickly. A 2" difference in diameter is huge an on NA/NB....the NC can handle it all day long. The most you can really do with a 17" is a 225/40...and only Hoosier makes a tire in that size. Having 17" wheels is difficult in the end and I will eventually be moving to 15x9 one day so I can run the 225/45's.
Here's my car with 235-40/17 tires, doesn't sound too bad, but they're pretty stuffed in there... https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1354817135 Out at Bonneville by AnonymousNamelss, on Flickr |
I think it's just those wheels that look good at 17". Every other 17" wheel I have seen on a miata just looks too big, idk why yours is different.
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well doppel the overall diameter means a little bit less seeing as i am planning on 350lbs of torque is my goal out of the v8 i am putting in my car.
And i may end up having to flare. Because i do not want to have to spend 200 a tire for a street tire that i am going to burn through. Although its a you have to pay to play game. I would like to possibly feel out the 17inch rim ball game. It is hard to pull them off but your car does so. If my car gets full aero and 17s with flares possibly then i think fitting them would be slightly less noticed. Especially having the v8 in the car. 235/40 seems to be a pretty good idea. What width is that rim ? |
Originally Posted by turbotyla
(Post 956625)
well doppel the overall diameter means a little bit less seeing as i am planning on 350lbs of torque is my goal out of the v8 i am putting in my car.
And i may end up having to flare. Because i do not want to have to spend 200 a tire for a street tire that i am going to burn through. Although its a you have to pay to play game. I would like to possibly feel out the 17inch rim ball game. It is hard to pull them off but your car does so. If my car gets full aero and 17s with flares possibly then i think fitting them would be slightly less noticed. Especially having the v8 in the car. 235/40 seems to be a pretty good idea. What width is that rim ? |
as much as i would love the awr i think it is hard to come by anymore.
i think that i would wait for the blistered fenders and the rear over quarters from autokonexion. so that the car would be wider but un noticed to the untrained eye. so the question stands doppel are 17x9 with meaty tires a good option? |
very nice i have the 2004 msm rims, might do this
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Originally Posted by GeneSplicer
(Post 945395)
I'll take your words guys - will let you say 'told you so' later - if it's any rougher than the koni/GCs 500F/300R rates I had on the '93 on 15s, then I'll get rid of them.
Anyways, selling these things off when the car gets back for a set of tungsten 15x8 6uls - maybe 9s. Will be running a 225/45 of some sort - R1Rs likely, maybe RA1. Guess it depends on how quick I have to buy another set. |
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