Stick to 15x9, or switch to 15x8?
I know this sounds blasphemous, but hear me out.
I got a great deal on 15x9 Dial Ins from Phil's Tire Service. Knowing the tire options available in 225/45 mainly being UHP, and given that this will be more of a weekend/fun street car that won't be tracked, is it a better idea to switch to 8's and run a 205/50? The 225/45 and 9's will be great for grip which is awesome on the road anyway, but mileage on them would obviously be significantly less than those of a 205/50 street tire. So, stick with grip and enjoy it, but buy tires more often, or switch to an 8 and save some money? I'd either buy the same set of wheels in an 8 and try to recoup my money by selling my 9s or just look for other 8's that I like to buy and do the latter as well. |
I've struggled with this same predicament and I currently have 9's. Its been almost 5 months now with no availability on 225 RS3's and also Rivals. This pretty much forced me to choose between buying a new set of 8's and 205's, or running an even stickier tire on my 9's. I went with the 9's and am now running 245 Maxxis RC-1's. I do however use my Miata for autocross, and have a Ford Focus to drive during the week to work. Having the RC-1's mounted on the Miata makes it easier for me to leave it in the garage and drive my Focus to work. Before when I had the 225's I would always be tempted to drive the Miata, and I did a lot of the time, which put a lot of extra wear on the tires and miles on the chassis. Both my set of 225 RS3's and Rivals wore out in less than 10k miles with autocross and very spirited street driving.
Ultimately you have to decide if buying $500+ worth of tires every 8-9 months is worth it for the extra grip. (Assuming you drive as much as I do) |
Let's see if your wheels fit over my 11.75 V8R brakes.
Maybe we can find some common ground. I was really looking at the Storms, though. |
You can run 205's on a 9 and emilio has even confirmed that most 205s will be slightly fast on a 9 than on an 8. However, the ride on the street won't be as nice since the sidewall will be slightly stretched. Just throwing that out there.
Both my set of 225 RS3's and Rivals wore out in less than 10k miles with autocross and very spirited street driving. Ultimately you have to decide if buying $500+ worth of tires every 8-9 months is worth it for the extra grip. (Assuming you drive as much as I do) |
I think the whole "9's or go home" thing applies mostly to track cars or at least someone that regularly pushes their car. On a street car I doubt you'll be in a situation where you exceed the limits of a x8 and 205 without killing yourself.
Just something to consider. |
Before I started to "race" my car, 15x8 and 205/225 on the street was great. The only times I had traction issues is when I was being intentionally stupid while running 25psi and mashing the throttle.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
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I think the whole "9's or go home" thing applies mostly to track cars or at least someone that regularly pushes their car. On a street car I doubt you'll be in a situation where you exceed the limits of a x8 and 205 without killing yourself.
Just something to consider. |
Heck, my street Miata has 7s and 205s.
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I don't think selling the 9's is the right choice. If you ever want to go up to 225 you have the option. For now just stretch a 205 on it. I wish I had done that lol.
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That's the other thing to consider too: if you didn't already get 9's this would be an easy choice.
But since you already got some, the only way I'd switch is if you can get your money back on them. No point taking a loss just to go smaller, might as well just stuff 205's on there for now like these guys are saying |
205 on an 8 is my favorite setup for an "all arounder". Great street manners, best tire choice.. and can still be properly quick. I'd choose an 8 over a 9 for my street/fun car every time if that "fun" didn't include full on track use.
A 205 on a 9" is a go-fast choice full of compromises born from the lack of 225 tire options; not what I'd choose for my street/fun car if I had other options. Sure, the equation shifts a bit because you already have one set of wheels.. the decision comes down to either setting the car up the way you really want it or just however is most convenient.
Originally Posted by 18psi
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No point taking a loss just to go smaller, might as well just stuff 205's on there for now like these guys are saying
-Ryan |
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My buddy picked up a set of 9" 6uls a while back that had 205/50 Federal 595 RS-R's on them, a little more stretched than a 225 but not too too bad.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1424112151 For reference, those are 225 Rivals on my car. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1424112151 |
That's another thing to consider: not all same size tires are actually same size.
When you look up physical width of let's say 205's, you'll see everything from 7.1 to 8.4 (iirc) The "wider" 205's will obviously look better on a 9 |
I'm running 205s on 8s and they are stretched to hell so yeah on 9s id say its too much.
Had the bead pop out once. |
Originally Posted by triple88a
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I'm running 205s on 8s and they are stretched to hell so yeah on 9s id say its too much.
Had the bead pop out once. |
Looks depends on the rubber.
I have no problem handing the comments about my stretched 205's on 9" in the pits, but I'd stay away from that stretch on a DD (no rubber protecting the rim, association with "stance", ...). But as shown there are really wide 205's that looks just right. Performance on the street is irrelevant, run 205's on 6" if you want. |
Looks depends on the rubber.
I have no problem handing the comments about my stretched 205's on 9" in the pits, but I'd stay away from that stretch on a DD (no rubber protecting the rim, association with "stance", ...). But as shown there are really wide 205's that looks just right. Performance on the street is irrelevant, run 205's on 6" if you want. |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1206467)
Let's see if your wheels fit over my 11.75 V8R brakes.
Maybe we can find some common ground. I was really looking at the Storms, though.
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1206471)
I think the whole "9's or go home" thing applies mostly to track cars or at least someone that regularly pushes their car. On a street car I doubt you'll be in a situation where you exceed the limits of a x8 and 205 without killing yourself.
Just something to consider.
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1206494)
That's the other thing to consider too: if you didn't already get 9's this would be an easy choice.
But since you already got some, the only way I'd switch is if you can get your money back on them. No point taking a loss just to go smaller, might as well just stuff 205's on there for now like these guys are saying
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1206633)
That's another thing to consider: not all same size tires are actually same size.
When you look up physical width of let's say 205's, you'll see everything from 7.1 to 8.4 (iirc) The "wider" 205's will obviously look better on a 9 Thanks for the replies everyone. Just woke up. |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1206633)
That's another thing to consider: not all same size tires are actually same size.
When you look up physical width of let's say 205's, you'll see everything from 7.1 to 8.4 (iirc) The "wider" 205's will obviously look better on a 9 |
Another option is to run 225's on your 15x8's and sell the wide wheels... I ran faster laps with 225's on 8" wheels vs 205's on 8".
Also feels mushier on the street- which might be good for you. |
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