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BettyWhite 10-25-2011 09:11 PM

TR Motorsport wheel question
 
Im thinking of ordering TR Motorsport wheels for my Miata, My questions are.. Tirerack offers several offsets and widths for the same wheel to fit the Miata, which is the best setup? I plan on lowering the car about an inch maybe a little more, and I dont want to have to modify the fenders when I do. Does anyone know if a 15X8 et20 will require modification with a 205/50/15 tire? Or should I get the 15X7 et30 to be safe?

cpolly69 10-25-2011 09:16 PM

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Not totally sure on NA car, but I run the 15x9 (36mm offset) w/ 225/45 rs3s on stock suspension - 01 w/ sports soft suspension
When I bought them I got this warning:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1319591765

I'd just say, get what you really want and plan to get coilovers as well. I'm sure your stock suspension is worn out...

92Miata 10-25-2011 09:44 PM

Go with the 30 offset, I just put the 15x8 et20 with 225/50/15 tires on my na and at stock height it would rub on hard bumps and once lowered it took major fender pull and still rub pulling into driveways and such.

curly 10-25-2011 10:13 PM

That's because you have the wrong tire size. 225/50/15 isn't supposed to be used, 225/45 is. That's a good .4" too big (radius). Had some myself, required me to have only about .5-1" drop from stock, no fender liners, a minor roll, and this was all with 1.7cm less offset (et37).

92Miata 10-25-2011 10:45 PM

there is nothing wrong with running the 225/50 yes its taller but it has its pros and cons,

Pros,
Life
cost

Cons,
Fit
traction

In my case the taller tire actually helps since my car has a 4.3 rear gear, and since I daily drive my car I couldnt justify the cost of the RS3 over the AST, when you consider tread wear.

Now if I were to have ran the 15x7 30offset vs my 15x8 20 offset that alone is 10mm of clearance and with that I would probably be able to rub the tire on the tub befor rubbing fender after a minor roll.

Now your 37 offset wheels at 17mm further in then I have and would offer much much better clearance but I planned to roll and pull fenders anyway.

emilio700 10-25-2011 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by cpolly69 (Post 787941)
Not totally sure on NA car, but I run the 15x9 (36mm offset) w/ 225/45 rs3s on stock suspension - 01 w/ sports soft suspension
When I bought them I got this warning:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1319591765

I'd just say, get what you really want and plan to get coilovers as well. I'm sure your stock suspension is worn out...

That FAQ looks familiar. Oh yeah, I wrote it.:bang:

viperormiata 10-26-2011 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 788023)
That FAQ looks familiar. Oh yeah, I wrote it.:bang:

That shit alone makes me not want to buy from them. 6ul's are way better looking, too!

wittyworks 10-26-2011 02:20 AM

slight thread jack, but emilio, your website seems to be down.

vehicular 10-26-2011 12:24 PM

This may not be the most appropriate place to post that..

Seefo 10-26-2011 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by wittyworks (Post 788069)
slight thread jack, but emilio, your website seems to be down.

its not, and you should keep that stuff to e-mail or pm.


Sorry to hear that Emilio. Its one of the reasons I stuck with 6ULs.

cpolly69 10-26-2011 01:33 PM

I along with at least 3 other other members I know have the TR wheels and have no issues with them. There may be some facts about these wheels vs 6uls on a strictly track car that I'm not considering, but for a street/occasional event car I think they are great. I was really stuck on 6uls for some time before deciding to go with the TRs, but in the end I didn't feel the much higher price was justified. Nor was I interested in the very long wait I would have had to go through in order to actually get them.

Seefo 10-26-2011 02:02 PM

^if you know where to look, 6ULs aren't out of stock ;)

240_to_miata 10-26-2011 02:47 PM

Yeah I run C3M's. I rolled my rear fenders because I am running shitty soft FM springs.

I love the 6UL's, but I was looking for something a bit lower cost and less cookie cutter. The 6ul's are AMAZING (and Emilio it is pretty shitty that Tire Rack literally took your documentation), but I get sick of seeing them on every single miata.

See my thread about them. there is fitment info in there too

Stein 10-26-2011 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by cpolly69 (Post 788246)
I was really stuck on 6uls for some time before deciding to go with the TRs, but in the end I didn't feel the much higher price was justified.

Justification is that the TR's are just a direct knockoff of a quality wheel. Easier to be cheaper when you have no engineering/design cost. Sorry (well. no I'm not) but there is some brand loyalty around here.

<--949 nutswinger and proud of it. Purchased 2 1/2 sets of 6UL's. Gotta have a pair for the DR's don't you? :)

Savington 10-26-2011 04:56 PM

I would have to stop and count how many sets of 6ULs we have in the shop. Not sure it would fit on two hands. It's about to go up by 2 when the 10s arrive.

For me, it's not only a brand loyalty issue, it's a morality issue.

TurboTim 10-26-2011 07:28 PM

This thread needs more Rev-wait.

BettyWhite 10-26-2011 11:36 PM

I ended up ordering the C1M's 15X7 et30 specifically made for the Miata so I'd be safe in what ever suspension modifications I choose. As for them being a knock off, I could care less. They are cheap, nice looking, and are backed by a company with amazing customer service. If you think about the wheels that most Miata owners purchase, they are typically knockoffs of a more expensive wheel. Who wants to spend $2500 on wheels and tires for a car that isnt worth $2500?? LOL Thanks for the advice folks! :yippee:

curly 10-27-2011 12:51 AM

well it's actually only $1150 for 15x9 6uls and 225 rs3s. That's pretty damn good for wheels that are a total of 12.x pounds lighter and stronger than the knockoffs. The extra price is definitely worth it, and they look exactly the same, less plasticy looking and only ~$80 more a wheel. Expensive yes, but worth it.

Faeflora 10-27-2011 10:25 AM

The 6UL is not the most glorious looking wheel (I own 8) but the TR1s are absolutely fucking ugly. Look at 18psi's car. I mean the car he sold. Barf.

Wildanimal 10-27-2011 04:20 PM

I really like the style of the C3M's but I would prefer if they offered 8's like the C1M. I really like the 9" wheels but I don't want to be stuck to the 225 tires because of the few choices.

Savington 10-27-2011 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by BettyWhite (Post 788498)
Who wants to spend $2500 on wheels and tires for a car that isnt worth $2500?? LOL Thanks for the advice folks! :yippee:

Are you really trying to view the purchase of aftermarket car parts as a financially prudent decision? :rofl: The parts won't add any value to the car, so it doesn't matter what the car cost.

A $2500 Miata is nothing but a big box to store all of your aftermarket goodies in/on. Once you're comfortable with that idea, you can really start to enjoy the car you're building.

240_to_miata 10-27-2011 07:48 PM

And you can enjoy the car you are building with or without the 6UL's

I think the C1m's are a discusting knock off and look like something you would buy from sears, but I do like the look and functionality of my C3M's. . . bad morals or not.

P.S. Sav, I just picked up my 11.75 BBK from fedex. Now I get to see if they fit under the C3M's this weekend

jacob300zx 10-27-2011 11:02 PM

I have a friend in C3M's with no problem to date with 15+ track days.

Now for my own personal opinion, they are ugly as fuck. If you can't justify the cost and are on a budget no one is going to make fun of your wheels and the C3M might fit the bill. I ordered a set of 6Ul's in 8's because I don't approve of TR taking that fitment info off Emilio's site with out their own testing, they look good, I want Emilio to have my money so he can make more balla parts, they are light, they are sexual(6UL). I run China GT500 knockoff's on my Boss 302, so I'm not being a hater. Waiting for the C3MR 15x10 so I can lol. I hope Emilio makes those FTR's. I paid $97 a piece for 18x10's so I know Emilio can do the FTR if he has the time.

Bob Loblaw 10-31-2011 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by BettyWhite (Post 788498)
I ended up ordering the C1M's 15X7 et30 specifically made for the Miata so I'd be safe in what ever suspension modifications I choose. As for them being a knock off, I could care less. They are cheap, nice looking, and are backed by a company with amazing customer service. If you think about the wheels that most Miata owners purchase, they are typically knockoffs of a more expensive wheel. Who wants to spend $2500 on wheels and tires for a car that isnt worth $2500?? LOL Thanks for the advice folks! :yippee:

Wrong forum. No one spends 2k on 15x7 wheels. :jerkit:

BettyWhite 10-31-2011 09:25 PM

Thanks to the couple of you who actually helped answer my question.. Another typical forum of people who love to flame! I guess I'll stick to trial and error in the future.

ILoveOffRamps 10-31-2011 09:42 PM

LOL if you think that's flaming. Keep your head down buddy. (I DO!)

thirdgen 10-31-2011 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 788612)
The 6UL is not the most glorious looking wheel (I own 8) but the TR1s are absolutely fucking ugly. Look at 18psi's car. I mean the car he sold. Barf.

I read this 4 days about and I am still laughing!

Seefo 10-31-2011 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by ILoveOffRamps (Post 790417)
LOL if you think that's flaming. Keep your head down buddy. (I DO!)

haha so true. I get the feeling this guy won't last long if this thread hurt his feelings. If you slide on over to MiataForumz.com, we will take it easy on ya ;)


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