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Nate99 11-26-2011 12:53 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 799077)
It was a flat black SM, the car did not roll over.

Right on. Totally off-topic, but here's the one I was thinking of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0kIe...ature=youtu.be

Back on topic: My RS3s have 16 track days on them this year, plus a couple of autocrosses, and they are just about worn out. My car is basically stock power. Not sure how this would compare to an NT-01, but hopefully I will be finding out soon.

Seefo 11-26-2011 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Nate99 (Post 799305)
Right on. Totally off-topic, but here's the one I was thinking of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0kIe...ature=youtu.be

Back on topic: My RS3s have 16 track days on them this year, plus a couple of autocrosses, and they are just about worn out. My car is basically stock power. Not sure how this would compare to an NT-01, but hopefully I will be finding out soon.

Geri is affiliated with 949racing (I think she is/was doing testing on the car for the upcoming enduro). This video made its way around earlier this month I think.


Personally, I don't have any experience tracking other cars. but I can tell you the maintenance cost for tracking a miata is a small fraction of what it costs for M cars, corvettes, porsches, and whatever else. Hell, I talked with a guy who was tracking his IS-F. He runs XP12 fronts and goes through a set every 3 weekends, they cost him easily 2.5 times more than my xp10s according to his quoted price.

The list is beyond tires, rotors and pads are more expensive, hubs, bearings, engines, transmission. You can get good deals on a motor+trans for the miata, as low as 750 sometimes!

Mobius 11-26-2011 04:38 PM

I've been debating RS3 vs NT-01. This is a good thread.


Originally Posted by Nate99 (Post 799305)
Right on. Totally off-topic, but here's the one I was thinking of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0kIe...ature=youtu.be

Can someone explain to me what happens to this car? Did a tire blow hitting the curbing on the passenger side or did they get bumped? I'm not understanding what causes the bang, and the violent spin.

Seefo 11-26-2011 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Mobius (Post 799415)
I've been debating RS3 vs NT-01. This is a good thread.



Can someone explain to me what happens to this car? Did a tire blow hitting the curbing on the passenger side or did they get bumped? I'm not understanding what causes the bang, and the violent spin.

she was bumped from what I understand. by the camaro.

Nate99 11-28-2011 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by Track (Post 799430)
she was bumped from what I understand. by the camaro.

Yep this is what I heard also.

jacob300zx 11-29-2011 02:43 AM

OP, I dont know where you live because your location isn't on your profile. If I was in your shoes I would do the following.

Buy a salvaged but repairable 01+ Miata that is fairly easy to fix (think racecar)
Send it to trackspeed Savington's company in California
Install Xida's, big brakes, 15x10's, Hoosier 245's, gut it, cage, head work, intake, exhaust, intake manifold, etc

Spank all of these cars your thinking of getting in a miata.

Zefiris 12-27-2011 10:30 AM

I recently went through my first set of NT01s. 225/45/15 on 15x9 6ULs. Managed to get between 80-90 heat cycles out of them, running 15-20 minutes sessions. Finally had a tiny bit of cord showing on the insides.

And for reference, I came from HPDEing an Evo 8 for two years. It was my daily with sound system and everything so it weighed 3575, with 400whp on E85 with a stock turbo, Vishnu Ohlins and a bunch of Whiteline stuff.. I was using used R6s, about 300 a set which would last 2-3 weekends. So just in tires and brakes I'm down to less than half the cost. And I've already lost two 5 speeds in the miata. Would hate to know how much a transmission would cost in the Evo.

The miata is 251whp on busted old ass Koni yellows. I don't think those things even do anything anymore. But even with that, I'm within 1-2 seconds of most of my Evo times on the local tracks, and I still am learning to drive rwd. Big change from the Evo which was easy as hell to drive.

hustler 12-27-2011 10:45 AM

I'm going to track my expenses next year on a GoogleDocs spreadsheet for all to see. This could be interesting.

rharris19 12-28-2011 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 811203)
I'm going to track my expenses next year on a GoogleDocs spreadsheet for all to see. This could be depressing.

I did that once and stopped three months in.

hustler 12-28-2011 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 811693)
I did that once and stopped three months in.

Is this something I don't want to know? I just turned down the van to avoid recurring monthly costs to redirect that money to what's left of my student loan. I want that debt gone.

Zefiris 12-28-2011 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 811697)
Is this something I don't want to know?

Probably not :rofl: My quicken program says I spent more this year in my "Auto" category than I did for my mortgage and utilities. It'll go down once I get rid of the Evo and only have the Miata, but it's still going to be up there.

chpmnsws6 12-28-2011 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 811697)
Is this something I don't want to know?

Yes. You'll find a coke habit is cheaper. Spreadsheets just make car guys sick.

samulis 12-28-2011 02:32 PM

Yes, if your left with spare cash you have wrong hobby.

My addition to the list

Originally Posted by jacob300zx (Post 800263)
OP, I dont know where you live because your location isn't on your profile. If I was in your shoes I would do the following.

Rent trackspeed's (Savington's company) trackcar, so you get to know how fast your even without turbo.
Then...


Buy a salvaged but repairable 01+ Miata that is fairly easy to fix (think racecar)
Send it to trackspeed Savington's company in California
Install Xida's, big brakes, 15x10's, Hoosier 245's, gut it, cage, head work, intake, exhaust, intake manifold, etc

Spank all of these cars your thinking of getting in a miata.


psreynol 02-28-2012 01:11 AM

I had a 944 with a big turbo, it was awesome but I would burn up a set of 275/45/17 in a few days days and not to mention the brake pads which cost over $600 for all four corners. the car also had many issues along the way. I cant compare because I just got a miata last week but pretty optimistic that it be way cheaper and able to keep up with friends. as for the vettes, they are awesome but if you want to run fast on slicks you need to do a lot of expensive work. if you want a vette track car, and can write the check, buy a used T1 car, with a pile of A6 tires.

ZX-Tex 03-01-2012 01:37 PM

+ 100, never add up all of the receipts, assuming you are not running your racing activities as a business. It will make you hurl.

psreynol 03-01-2012 03:40 PM

I keep very detailed spreadsheets on my car projects until I exceed my budget, then I just stop updating them. that or I play with the numbers to get more money... mods vs maintenance, lol.


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