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Old 12-17-2009, 09:14 PM
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Is it me or does it look like the wheels are staggerd in this pic?

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Originally Posted by Cspence
Is it me or does it look like the wheels are staggerd in this pic?

i does somewhat appears that way!

maybe a 9 in the front and 10 in the rear.........did you measure all 4 fenders to see how much extra width you got after install? i seen pics that looks to be 2 1/2 inches extra....is it the same on all 4?
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Originally Posted by WonTon
my bad for my failure in reading...........
Thumbing through the Hoosier racing tire catalog they make slicks in 23.5” OD in both 11 and 12” wide. For 16” wheels. don’t list anything for 17” they skip to 18” . They are said for GT2 application in that size. and both are recommended to be mounted on 12” wide wheels.

This is not very far off in diameter. They would work ok with relatively stock suspension geometry I still think you would need tubbed fenders though.

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Originally Posted by bbundy
Thumbing through the Hoosier racing tire catalog they make slicks in 23.5” OD in both 11 and 12” wide. For 16” wheels. don’t list anything for 17” they skip to 18” . They are said for GT2 application in that size. and both are recommended to be mounted on 12” wide wheels.

This is not very far off in diameter. They would work ok with relatively stock suspension geometry I still think you would need tubbed fenders though.

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i wouldnt be running no where near 11 or 12 inch wide wheels at most i would run 10's with a low offset!

Cspence hurry and get some wheel and tell us if there is any futher modification needed? pawease.......
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So the next question is if anyone is running 17's with the flares. LS3 thoughts are creeping in my head and the 15/16's are limited in width on street and track tires.
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Originally Posted by Cspence
Hard to tell what wheels these are exactly (I believe Kodiaks $$$) but they look pretty good...

That's me in the passenger seat. This picture was taken at an event in September at Nashville Super Speedway - car is sick; we were doing over 150 at the end of the front straightaway. This is the car that made me want to build a turbo Miata - I lived upstairs from the owner when he put an FMII kit on the car in 2000. It's come a long way since then...really bad *** car.
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Originally Posted by nickt93
that's me in the passenger seat. This picture was taken at an event in september at nashville super speedway - car is sick; we were doing over 150 at the end of the front straightaway. This is the car that made me want to build a turbo miata - i lived upstairs from the owner when he put an fmii kit on the car in 2000. It's come a long way since then...really bad *** car.
pics pics pics!!!!!
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Pics of what - the car? The wheels? I have a couple of low quality videos of the car tearing down the front straight at Nashville Superspeedway.
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Originally Posted by nickt93
Pics of what - the car? The wheels? I have a couple of low quality videos of the car tearing down the front straight at Nashville Superspeedway.
Anything ya got! I love that car.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Wob
So the next question is if anyone is running 17's with the flares. LS3 thoughts are creeping in my head and the 15/16's are limited in width on street and track tires.
plenty of 15s available in 12" width. perhaps you're looking at specific one?

Personally i wouldnt go with something bigger than a 16" otherwise you'll have to make the tires bigger. You dont want it looking like a hotwheels toy car with the oversized tires or the NC.


and while looking for a pic for the nc here is what i found.



If it wasnt for batman and robin i'd say its a pretty good photoshop
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Originally Posted by WonTon
i does somewhat appears that way!

maybe a 9 in the front and 10 in the rear.........did you measure all 4 fenders to see how much extra width you got after install? i seen pics that looks to be 2 1/2 inches extra....is it the same on all 4?
IIRC (I'd need to talk to the owner) I think they are 10/11 or 11/12's. I don't remember if the rear was tubbed or not. It's been a long time since I've seen that car in person, well at least really looked it over.
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Originally Posted by Cspence
Anything ya got! I love that car.
Here are some really old pics of the car, but it does show the flares and some better still shots of the wheels:

http://home.comcast.net/~jeremyschus...es/flares.html
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Originally Posted by nickt93
Here are some really old pics of the car, but it does show the flares and some better still shots of the wheels:

http://home.comcast.net/~jeremyschus...es/flares.html
Those pics are when it was still an SM2 autocross car and was running on 15" wheels. I am pretty sure he is on 16" now. That red car in the background of this pic sure is pretty sharp.

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Originally Posted by nickt93
Here are some really old pics of the car, but it does show the flares and some better still shots of the wheels:

http://home.comcast.net/~jeremyschus...es/flares.html
Thank you sir!...now all we need are the videos you spoke of
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Originally Posted by sbrian2
Those pics are when it was still an SM2 autocross car and was running on 15" wheels. I am pretty sure he is on 16" now. That red car in the background of this pic sure is pretty sharp.

I was laughing at how many shots of Jeremy's car had yours in the background.
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Originally Posted by triple88a
plenty of 15s available in 12" width. perhaps you're looking at specific one?

Personally i wouldnt go with something bigger than a 16" otherwise you'll have to make the tires bigger. You dont want it looking like a hotwheels toy car with the oversized tires or the NC.
In A6 and R6 you can only go with a 275 and for street tires you are limited to a 245. I struggle with 225 A6s and I know CSP guys that could use more tire than a 275. There are just no options for the street and a few options for the track.
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Originally Posted by Cspence
Thank you sir!...now all we need are the videos you spoke of
Sorry it took so long to get this up...it was buried deep in the memory of my phone. This car sounds awesome roaring down the straight.

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Just thinking about everything I'll need to specify when it comes time to order wheels. Since the wheels I want are custom order they can come with a generic hub hole (2.6" for the 4 lug wheels) or they can make any size hub opening to make the wheels hubcentric. My question is, which is the best way to go? I'm assuming hub centric would be the best, but I'm not 100% sure. Does it even really matter that much? I guess I need to be schooled in this a little bit. Also, just so I know, what is the hub diameter on the miata, 60.1mm? (I think I saw that somewhere...but then again I've seen 54.1mm and the 6UL's have a 67.1mm bore)


http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/d...sOrderForm.pdf

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Well I've spent the past 2 hours working on this rim fitment deal and here is the scoop. On the rear, you can fit as much meat as you want....literally. A 16x10 with 245/45's would fit no problem. **** you could probably fit a damn 16x12 if you wanted to. Now all the issue come with the front which is where I spent most of my time trying to figure out the offset that would interfere with turning the least (3 & 9 oclock positions). This said, my original plans of a 16x9.5 0et with a 245/45 are DEFINITLY out. After hacking up some coat hangers to mimic the tire diameter and width/offset I found that on the 16x9.5 I'd need to run a 245/35/R16 and have an offset of +32mm which would put the outside lip of the rim 3.5" out off the mounting surface of the rotor. Even with this, there would be some trimming I'd need to do to the flares in the 7-8 and 4-5 oclock positions to make room, but its doable. Believe it or not, even with the positive offset, the wheel would still be almost flush with the outermost edge of the flares.....front and rear (checked the rear since I don't want to run a staggard setup)......now did anything I mention jump out to anyone....probably not, but the +32mm offset is pretty darn close to another popular wheel. Thats right the 6UL has a +36. Granted the 15x9 would be .5" narrower than the spinwerkes and would add another 4mm of offset, but by my calculations would put the outside edge of the rim 3.08" out off the mounting surface of the rotor.......so the moral of the story is that 15x9 6UL's with a .5" spacer will be close to flush with the Tuckin99's and the 245/40/R15 or 225/45/R15 have basically the same rolling diameter as the 245/35/R16 so the interference will be basically the same as I noted above.

Sorry about the long winded reponse, I just wanted to put my findings out there for others. In my eyes, I'm thinking I may go with the 6UL's now just for the mere fact that they are 3lbs lighter than the 16x9.5 spinwerks, look better, are probably stronger, and are $70 cheaper - each.....and all I'll have to do is run .5" spacer, if I'm worried about having the wheels fill out the flares more.

O yea, if anyone is curious the hub diameter is 54.1mm....I verified it while I was doing all this

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Old 01-24-2010, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WonTon
ight i have already mentioned this before but im still trying to figure this out!

hokay! right now im currently running 16x8 with 0 offset and for tires im running 205/45s. and im having scrubbing issues when i make really sharp turns, it scrubs where the support bar runs from the inner body of the car and where it attaches to the corner of the front bumper and fender! i have already cut away at that area and it has helped minimize the scrubbing!

the left of the pic is the front, just in case anybody asks!



now this thread speaks of running wider wheels, and in the very first post it says that the black car (first pic in the thread) is running 16x9 0 offset. now with wider wheels the contact surface gets moved forward due to the extra 1/2 in of width on each side of the wheel from the center. that's what the 2 lines going horizontally across the top and bottom of the tire in the pic above signify!

im wanting to get a set of the replica flares for my car and i want to go with the same sized wheel and offset as the black car in the first post, but im already scrubbing and if i go that route i will scrub more!

anybody understand what im saying? what am i missing? anybody have any pics of install of the N2 flares...to show all of the modification to properly install them and be able to turn without scrubbing?
Lol....now I understand what all this blabbering was about spent my whole day pondering about the best setup to go with and I still dont know what to do because of this.
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