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will nt-01 be damaged by freezing temps?

I'm obviously not driving the tires in the winter. just wanted to make sure leaving the tires in the garage all winter is ok. some race tires will split when they freeze.

I store mine ~~indoors~~ inside the house. Pretty sure Nitto has a warning to not expose them to cold temperatures.

Don't let them freeze.

Or else bake at 350 for 30 minutes.

I would put them in the basement; my RS3's are in mine. I stored my RS2's in the garage for a couple of winters and they lost all grip. They still wore well as track tires but I could not pull more than .5 to .6 g lateral steady state.

Freeze cycling R-comps will fundamentally change them, and not in a good way.

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Originally Posted by Savington (Post 946799)

Don't let them freeze.

Safety issue? My car has the track wheels mounted and is in a friend's garage where we are doing my V8 swap. Metal building, coldest is high 20s (NC).

I was considering loaning them to a buddy for track days this spring but if they won't be safe..

I wouldn't race on tires that have been frozen.

The tires will not be the same.

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Originally Posted by Mobius (Post 951125)

Freeze cycling R-comps will fundamentally change them, and not in a good way.

I read on the Toyo web site some time ago that any temp below -9c will cause cracking of the tread on the R888, so given that the NT01 and the R888 have very similar construction (same tread compound but different construction of the carcass) I would ensure that your tires are not subjected to freezing temps. Further, rx you deflate your tires to less than 25 psi while in storage.

Note to future self. Do not order race tires during the winter.

Thanks for the info - I had one friend try R888s on his Mustang and he *hated* them. He described exactly what you're saying - he could not get any grip out of the rear of the car and had to tiptoe on the throttle all weekend. Wonder if he or the guy he bought them from made this mistake.

Per Toyo: "Proxes R888 radials are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. It’s also essential these tires be stored indoors at temperatures maintained above 15 degrees F."

Any high performance tire should be stored indoors above freezing, and definitely should not be left on the car through a winter. Unless you live in Panama.

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Originally Posted by Mobius (Post 964922)

Any high performance tire should be stored indoors above freezing, and definitely should not be left on the car through a winter. Unless you live in Panama.

Or Greece. :fawk:

Greece. What is this Greece? It's so far away it might as well be the moon. On which, btw, you definitely want to store your NT-01's indoors overnight, and inflate only to ~6psi.

From Tire Racks website

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Like the motorsports tires they have evolved from, all Extreme Performance Summer performance category tires feature constructions and compounds that have been tuned to maximize traction and performance within a range of warm-to-hot ambient temperatures. Therefore, unlike less highly tuned tires, these types of tires must only be operated in and stored at temperatures consistent with their thoroughbred characteristics.

In addition to normal tire storage recommendations, Extreme Performance Summer performance category tires require supplementary storage procedures be followed to prevent tire compound cracking due to exposure to cold temperatures.

While these recommendations are general guidelines offered by Tire Rack, selected tire manufacturers may have additional specific recommendations applicable to their tires. Follow the tire manufacturer’s recommendations whenever available.
It is not recommended to drive on these types of tires at temperatures below 40 degrees F (5 degrees C).

It is recommended these types of tires be stored indoors at temperatures maintained at above 20 degrees F (-7 degrees C) when not in use.

Tires accidentally exposed to temperatures of 20 degrees F (-7 degrees C) or lower must be permitted to gradually return to temperatures of at least 40 degrees F (5 degrees C) for at least 24 hours before they are flexed by adjusting inflation pressures, mounting them on wheels, or using them to support, roll or drive a vehicle.

In order to allow gradual, uniform and thorough increase in tire temperature, these types of tires should be protected from direct sources of intense heat as they warm up. Do not apply localized heat, blow heated air directly on them, nor place them near a heat source.

Always inspect tires before use after storage periods.

While compound cracking is not a warrantable condition because it occurs as the result of improper use or storage, tires exhibiting compound cracking must be replaced.