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Ben 08-26-2007 11:59 AM

Wastegate actuator
 
WTB actuator for external gate TD04 to replace greddy actuator, most any T25/28 actuator should work, probably others too. Preferably with bracket included. Most anything opening pressure is fine, 6-12 psi. I know some of you guys have extra parts from junk turbos laying around. If so, hook it up.

lazzer408 08-31-2007 02:46 AM

I think I have the actuator you need. You can have it for $10 shipped. It's new Mitsubishi just an extra. I'll send you pics just email and remind me.

Ben 08-31-2007 09:59 AM

cool, as long as it isn't the same can I already have, sounds like a weiner

lazzer408 09-01-2007 06:05 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Attachment 215919

Attachment 215920

That the right one?

clay 09-14-2007 08:30 AM

I'm also looking for a replacement wastegate actuator for my Greddy internal gate on my TD04. I would be curious to know if this one fits for you.

lazzer408 09-14-2007 04:38 PM

I dunno he never answered me.

Ben 09-14-2007 07:50 PM

Oh

Lazzer, I need it. Please send it my way. :)

lazzer408 09-14-2007 08:39 PM

If it looks like the right one paypal $10 to lazzer408@yahoo.com

I got them free from Nester. Your just covering my packing and shipping. =)

nester 09-15-2007 05:00 PM

and I have 4 more of them here..


I'm still working on your insurance claim with UPS too.. they LOST 3 of my packages this week.. I'm extremely impressed.. LOST THEM.. jeez.

Ben 09-15-2007 05:25 PM

I feel your pain man. I try to never use UPS anymore.

What are those actuators? Is it any better than what I got now (stock greddy)? Cuz I can't hold boost to redline....

nester 09-15-2007 07:13 PM

They are off a big 16g.

http://www.turbochargers.com/store/images/evo3turbo.JPG

lazzer408 09-15-2007 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 151246)
I feel your pain man. I try to never use UPS anymore.

What are those actuators? Is it any better than what I got now (stock greddy)? Cuz I can't hold boost to redline....

When the wg actuator fails it won't open the wg and you'd build too much boost. It could be binding though. Did you check the actuator arm and make sure it's straight going into the actuator? If it's cocked to the side it can stick holding the wg open. Just a though.

lazzer408 09-15-2007 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by nester (Post 151239)
and I have 4 more of them here..


I'm still working on your insurance claim with UPS too.. they LOST 3 of my packages this week.. I'm extremely impressed.. LOST THEM.. jeez.

Are they still making you jump thru hoops? What happened to that oil line? Did you send it out?

nester 09-15-2007 10:58 PM

They are supposed to pay out by the end of the month. I had to call a mazda dealer and have them fax a quote for the valve cover.. so i could fax it to ups..

The oil supply line is bent and kinked, I'll send it to you, but you may have to do some repair to make it work.

Mach929 09-16-2007 12:07 AM

the greddy wastegate can is weak, i have a helper spring one mine and with my mbc i still can't hold steady boost to redline, right now it goes to 14.6psi it's dropping to around 13psi at about 6000rpm and less by redline. but that actuator you've got pictured there may be difficult to work with since it looks permanently attached to that bracket and the rod has a bend in it where the greddy setup is straight.

lazzer408 09-16-2007 01:28 AM

It's fused to the bracket.

kotomile 09-16-2007 01:52 AM

FM has a replacement, IIRC it's sold as a universal and doesn't have any funky bracketry. I think it's rated for 5-7 psi, adjustable.

Mach929 09-16-2007 10:31 AM

i've been looking for a decent priced one, will that fm one hold higher boost steady? i don't want to waste money on it if not. I've seen the hks one all over ebay, i think it probably works fine but it's around $100.

clay 09-20-2007 03:40 PM

Yeah, I'm looking to replace my Greddy actuator with the adjustable one from FM. I'm just hoping it will go on the "Deal of the Day" soon so I can get it for less...

lazzer408 09-20-2007 03:49 PM

Just a question. Are you guys running the wg line to the intake manifold in hopes to regain that 1lb loss thru the IC? If so that's how your having premature wg failures.

kotomile 09-21-2007 02:24 AM

I would think running it to the mani would be a bad idea considering how much vacuum you'd have sucking on the can.

I emailed FM to see if their can would work, they said the only thing is the pin diameter. How big is the pin on the Greddy WG?

Ben 09-21-2007 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by lazzer408 (Post 153381)
Just a question. Are you guys running the wg line to the intake manifold in hopes to regain that 1lb loss thru the IC? If so that's how your having premature wg failures.

no. the wg can just sucks really bad

olderguy 09-21-2007 06:43 PM

I've been running off the manifold for over 10K miles with no problems.

lazzer408 09-21-2007 07:22 PM

It may depend on the quality of the actuator. The diaphragm is cupped like the surround on a subwoofer. Running off the mani causes the cup to invert when under vacuum then pop back under pressure. It cause stress and premature failure of the diaphragm. But to each there own.

kotomile 09-22-2007 12:59 AM

anyone got a measurement of the pin on the WG?

spike 09-22-2007 02:22 AM

If you guys need a wastegate can that can hold high boost,I suggest going to a auto wreckers and find a 1st gen mitsubishi eclipse and use the can off the stock turbo.I'm pretty sure the stock wastegate is set to a 10 or 12 psi minimum.

clay 09-24-2007 03:11 PM

Well, I saw on the FM deal of the day that they are selling a T25/T28 actuator for $30. I called and asked if it would fit the Greddy and they said, "probably not without welding it." So if you can make it work, it looks like a pretty good deal. Today only.

http://www.flyinmiata.com/dealoftheday/index.php

Atlanta93LE 09-24-2007 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by spike (Post 154047)
If you guys need a wastegate can that can hold high boost,I suggest going to a auto wreckers and find a 1st gen mitsubishi eclipse and use the can off the stock turbo.I'm pretty sure the stock wastegate is set to a 10 or 12 psi minimum.

I don't think so. Mine is about 8psi. Didn't they use some electronic boost modulation to get to 10/12 psi?

kotomile 09-24-2007 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by clay (Post 155555)
Well, I saw on the FM deal of the day that they are selling a T25/T28 actuator for $30. I called and asked if it would fit the Greddy and they said, "probably not without welding it." So if you can make it work, it looks like a pretty good deal. Today only.

http://www.flyinmiata.com/dealoftheday/index.php

That's the FM2 type with the integral bracket. The one I'm trying to figure out is the FM1 style with the straight arm and no bracket.

I suppose I could fab an end for the FM1 style can pretty easily.

Ben 09-24-2007 06:45 PM

I'm not giving FM any money :twofinger
I do have easy access to a torch and a welder, so persuading something to fit is just half the fun.

nester 09-25-2007 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by Atlanta93LE (Post 155565)
I don't think so. Mine is about 8psi. Didn't they use some electronic boost modulation to get to 10/12 psi?

yes. 1g dsm's have a boost controller from the factory.

spike 09-26-2007 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by Atlanta93LE (Post 155565)
I don't think so. Mine is about 8psi. Didn't they use some electronic boost modulation to get to 10/12 psi?

Even though the boost is regulated by a electronic boost controller,it's still alot better than the stock greddy one.If you compare the physical size of both wastegates,the one from the DSM is alot bigger.

It's worth a try,you can't loose for the price it can be picked up for.

nester 09-26-2007 01:03 AM

If a 14b actuator will work, then the ones I have, see pics posted on page 1 should work too.. a 14b and a 16g are externally almost identical.

I have 4 of these units that I will let got for like $10 a piece or whatever...

Braineack 09-26-2007 08:31 AM

ben are you still looking for one?

a local guy here (rappadan), got a hold of two old 300zx turbos. it bolted right into postion like the stock wastegate, but the rod needs to be lengthed about 1".

ill let you know how the results are. but i believe he might have a spare.

clay 09-26-2007 10:18 AM

If it is just a matter of extending the actuator arm, could you use something like this (if you wanted to avoid welding):
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=WGT

They don't specify the threads, but it may be standardized.

Braineack 09-26-2007 10:20 AM

not a threaded arm. besides, welding is fun.

Ben 09-26-2007 10:28 AM

cool, let me know whuz up. I can weld it up all ghetto & ugly, grind it, and paint it black.


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