Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1131046)

Nope never been to clubprotege.

And I suggest you keep looking into this matter, I'm not joking or trying to misinform you when I tell you that dozens of us here in CA have been jumping through hoops about this subject and no one that I know of has a completely legal BEGi kit that they take to their local smog place right now and pass.

I know of FFS coldside supercharger setup cars that do. I know Greddy turbo kit cars that do. I've yet to see a current BEGi setup that does.

Originally Posted by dstn2bdoa (Post 949795)

Does it matter that its for a Honda aplication?

Would a smog tech bounce you if he found that CARB # on a Miata?

Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 949830)

Short answer: Yes. Chances are they will look it up.

Depends on the smog tech, and the sticker. Do an image search for "CARB EO sticker" on google and you will see what I mean. The old JRSC stickers said something like "Honda/Acura/Ford Supercharger Systems" but I have no idea what they say for the CR-Z

It used to be that a lot of them really didnt care. If It looks like a legit CARB sticker and everything appears to be hooked up correctly, they would run it. Unfortunately, CARB has started sending under cover inspectors out to "check up" on the tech stations. Fines and revocation of license are typical for infractions. I've heard that a lot of stations will not even let your car in the shop if you have anything with an EO sticker on it under the hood, simply because they don't want to be responsible for looking up the documentation for the device and then insuring that you have it installed and functioning per the EO description. They would rather continue putting your Moms 2001 Accord on the machine and collecting their $80 and move on with life. CARB EOs are complicated and take time, and that costs them more monies.


Example 1: When I had my NA, it had a MonsterFlow intake (CARB EO D-591) installed and stickered. I had a hell of a time passing the visual part of the inspection because I didn't buy the optional heat shield, and the description on EO D-591 specifically states "heat shield (as applicable)" and all the Miata documentation shows a heat shield.

Example 2: I briefly considered selling my 2000 for a 1999 so I could get a street legal turbo:


When I emailed BEGI and conversed with Stephanie (or Corky, can't remember) they informed me that they no longer sell the extra injector setup, or the powercard controller to control the extra injectors, and that there is no "timing retard device" for the BP4W NB series engines. The RRFPR is actually useless on the returnless NB fuel system unless you install a fuel pump under the hood... etc. The problem is, the underlined stuff in the above CARB EO is IN THE EO DESCRIPTION and any tech worth a damn is going to look this up if someone rolls in with a turbo strapped to their car, rather than "do me a solid" and loose their license.

When I bought these concerns up with Steph, her response was "We have had no reports out of California about people failing smog tests with our kit" or basically "trust us." She then recommended that I buy there $1,495.00 XEDE piggyback so I could retain the stock ECU and thus get OBDII functionality and call that the "timing retard device." To pass visual, I was told to plug a couple injectors into the intake plumbing and install a RRFPR even though they don't do anything. :facepalm:

IF something happened to this car and someone dropped an insurance check in my lap, I'd buy a 49 state 1999 Miata and a bare bones BEGI-S or Series 1 kit with no turbo (I have a T25 in the garage) for the CARB cert and then run it with my Megasquirt. For visual, I'd do as Steph recommended and install a RRFPR and dummy injectors, and possibly buy one of FMs VooDoo cards. For inspection time, I'd wire the wastegate open, run the stock ECU/injectors/maf/cat w/VooDoo and call it a day.

Originally Posted by MazdaBp26 (Post 1131071)

Thanks guys I really appreciate responding back. Don't worry I'm not like the other noobs where i take advice as insult .. ill definitely would take this into consideration. ill do more research.. the super charger seems to be more reasonable since if i Do go smog its somewhat easy to remove . Unlike a Turbo where i have to deal with rusted or seized bolts for smog. Also i agree with todays smog where techs are scared to accept something fishy right away. Any more Input pls feel free, pls lead me into the right direction.. im still a lost sheep living in the state of CA...

Originally Posted by MazdaBp26 (Post 1131071)

im still a lost sheep living in the state of CA...