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Old 07-05-2015, 09:13 AM   #2061
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It's not about speed, it's about muscle memory, don't teach yourself bad habits. And, I dunno, teach the noobs where to go.
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I hear ya. Give me a minute and I'll find a lap where I did.
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<p>Is this one better? I still could have used more space on 7 but I was getting close to passing him.</p><p></p>
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T12 looked marginally better. You screwed up t3 though.
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<p>Noted. When are you gonna come instruct me?&nbsp;</p><p>Aug 16th HOD at ORP?</p>
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You guys can't drive, I'd pass you in a stock miata... :P
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<p>Bringing the dickswinging out of the PDX lounge I see. I've got harnesses in my passenger seat now Martin, want to instruct again?</p>
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<p>Shopping for cheap pads to run when not on the track. Ceramic or organic? 20 dollar price difference.</p>
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Wouldn't you need to swap rotors as well for the new pad material?
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<p>From what I've read so far the DTC-60's should be fine with other stuff on the rotors, it'll just grind it off. But I could be wrong. I need to measure my pads and see how much wear I put in them. But I was getting some fade at times so I think I'm going to put the 1.8's on this week.</p>
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<p>Is this one better?</p>
Kind of sucks to get stuck behind someone like that and spend all your time coasting. You just can't learn anything in that situation. Are you able to get some space (go through the hot pits)? Can you get a faster run group?
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This was at an SCCA track night. I've spent a lot of time bitching about it already. This was in the intermediate group. This quote from the guy running the night when I talked to him about changing classes.
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<br />50-60% of the entrants are first timers. The novice group makes up 30% of the people there. Intermediate had quite a few peoe who said, I have a fast car. And I've dicked around on the streets I shouldn't be in novice.
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It was the same way at HPT for bike days, I actually had someone straight up run into me down the middle of the main straight over 140 or so, just straight ran into the back of me, lol. I still don't know how I kept it up, because I remember looking at the pit wall there for a second or two. Then I'd go get stuck behind some slow as hell retarded old hipster junk...

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<p>Pic dump from the track night yesterday:</p><p>Click for large version. (these were taken with a real camera)</p><p><a href="http://imgur.com/4SgddQT" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143648&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/XftQXxS" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143649&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/dIxa1mX" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143651&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/wwoNe8c" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143652&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/Mtxshdk" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143653&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/S6Mhfsv" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143654&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/jjyLH3s" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143655&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/MORg8TR" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143656&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/aYiWhdH" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143657&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/YvxOZS2" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143659&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/kQChyr5" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143661&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/Qow6FTi" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143663&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/6gLVOAA" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143664&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/vaPghg6" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143666&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/ggZDCrA" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143668&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/FSAJehs" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143670&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/xtTzD3n" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143672&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/DhRqZJe" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143675&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/AYUQACS" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143677&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/tKSzIPu" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143678&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/WX0MAph" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143680&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imgur.com/yrkgAds" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=143682&amp;dateline=14 36120420" /></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>Anyone else have input on the pad swapping and transfer layers? I've read the cobalts will be fine, not sure about the dtc-60s in front.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span>Schuyler aren't you swapping pads for track use?</span></p>
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Alright you guys talked me out of this once before, let's see if you can do it again.
<br />Rods in my 1.6....
<br />Hear me out. This last track day I ran full body just because I wanted the ego boost of blowing by stis and ****. And I gotta say I loved it. The car was perfect. Just enough power to stomp on it on the straights. But I wasn't loosing the rear end or anything like that when putting the power down. Basically I had a blast and don't need anymore for the track. It was perfect.
<br />But I want reliability, breaking a torsen last month and now a 5 speed, the rods are my weak link. I know not to wheel hop my torsen and a 6 speed is going in.
<br />I have a VVT motor in my garage. But my dreams for that build exceed what I can do right now in the next year. I need to back off a little and focus on some other stuff in life.
<br />So if I could take what I have now, and eliminate the possibility of ventilating my block I think I would be a happy camper.
<br />Can rods be replaced from the bottom? Could I pull the engine this winter and throw in rods without even pulling the head?
<br />Another plus is that now that I've broken both the torsen and 5 speed, although the replacements cost me nothing, I lost money by not being able to sell the 4.1 and the 5 speed. When the VVT motor is ready I could sell the turbo, and motor combo as a drop in reliable 220hp option.
<br />I guess it all boils down to can I put rods in for just the cost of rods, bearings and oil pan sealing?
<br />This would also let me experiment with flex fuel and e85 before tuning for big power in the future.
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<br />Alright I'm done, talk me out of it.
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I suspect you'll have a tough time installing the pistons from the bottom, because rings. Other than that, you sound pretty level headed for someone talking about throwing rods at a B6.
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Alright you guys talked me out of this once before, let's see if you can do it again.
<br />Rods in my 1.6....
<br />Hear me out. This last track day I ran full body just because I wanted the ego boost of blowing by stis and ****. And I gotta say I loved it. The car was perfect. Just enough power to stomp on it on the straights. But I wasn't loosing the rear end or anything like that when putting the power down. Basically I had a blast and don't need anymore for the track. It was perfect.
<br />But I want reliability, breaking a torsen last month and now a 5 speed, the rods are my weak link. I know not to wheel hop my torsen and a 6 speed is going in.
<br />I have a VVT motor in my garage. But my dreams for that build exceed what I can do right now in the next year. I need to back off a little and focus on some other stuff in life.
<br />So if I could take what I have now, and eliminate the possibility of ventilating my block I think I would be a happy camper.
<br />Can rods be replaced from the bottom? Could I pull the engine this winter and throw in rods without even pulling the head?
<br />Another plus is that now that I've broken both the torsen and 5 speed, although the replacements cost me nothing, I lost money by not being able to sell the 4.1 and the 5 speed. When the VVT motor is ready I could sell the turbo, and motor combo as a drop in reliable 220hp option.
<br />I guess it all boils down to can I put rods in for just the cost of rods, bearings and oil pan sealing?
<br />This would also let me experiment with flex fuel and e85 before tuning for big power in the future.
<br />....
<br />Alright I'm done, talk me out of it.
Easy. It can't be done. And even if you could, you'd have to hone/rering it, and that too will have to be done from the top.

I've posted the cheapest you can do a rods-only setup. It's about 500 if you already have a motor to use, but 500 includes rods/fluids/gaskets and can turn a wrench yourself.
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<p>Why do I have to hone/rering if I'm keeping rings and pistons stock. (Never been inside an engine, but do everything else myself.)</p>
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