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Old 09-14-2015, 09:06 PM   #3821
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Depends on where you're storing them. Bedroom closet? Set them in a box to keep off dust, put box on newspaper so they don't stain the floor/carpet.

Garage? Wrap in garbage bags after wiping everything down with well oiled rag. Throw in some dessicant packs if you have them. Anything new, like a cam, keep in the unopened original packaging and it should be fine.
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Depends on where you're storing them. Bedroom closet? Set them in a box to keep off dust, put box on newspaper so they don't stain the floor/carpet.

Garage? Wrap in garbage bags after wiping everything down with well oiled rag. Throw in some dessicant packs if you have them. Anything new, like a cam, keep in the unopened original packaging and it should be fine.
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Cover every thing you do not want to rust in WD40 or your favorite spray lube. I have some fogging spray that is intended to be used to spray cylinder walls for long term storage. It sticks great, but is easy to clean off during re-assembly.

Get some small parts bins or trays to keep all the head parts organized if you are taking the head apart.
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I use fogging oil
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******* relte and rleete back in here confusing me.
<br />Going to go amazon some fogging oil.
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<p>How big should the delrin be in relation to the sleeve? Like press fit?&nbsp;Does it need a sleeve inside where the bolt goes through?</p>
I usually do at least 0.002" press fit with delrin. The problem is most of the control arm bores are tapered about 0.020" across there length, so it makes it hard to nail down a good od.

Of course they need a sleeve.

Yes they should be greased.

Any auto parts store will have fogging oil. No need to wait.

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<p>Why do they need a sleeve. Isn't the point of delrin that it makes good sliding surface?</p><p>Engine isn't coming apart till the move, amazon is easier.</p>

<p>Wow, first time ive ever seen osmething cheaper at vatozone than amazon.</p>

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Only one of us have a red miata in the signature! How do you change your user name?
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<p>Starting an engine build spreadsheet. Basing it off of curly's stuff. Budgeting about 2k for parts. Hoping to get well under it.</p><p>Ebay rods</p><p>9.5:1 supertech 84.0mm pistons.</p><p>BE VVT Oil pump</p><p>pretty much stock everything else.</p><p>Going to get the engine on the stand once I move into the new place and strip the block. Hopefully it isn't trash.</p><p>How should I store stuff? Like the head, cams, block, crank etc. Wrapped in plastic? Oil them first?</p>
Don't get ebay rods, you may end up having to do more machining to them then they're worth. Get Manley rods from a reputable source like 949. The 4 sets I've installed haven't had any oil clearance issues when I plasti-gauged them.

Don't forget Wiseco rings. Unless you wanna rebuild it more than John Mann. I think you wanna plan on deleting your oil jets too.

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<p>Basically Miata's suck as drag cars. I like going to the drag strip, and I'm going to bandaid the problem the best I can, but not at the expense of ruining my track car.</p>
No, they don't. You suck at setting up a drag car. Your wheel hop problem will not be solved by delrin bushings. You were on the bump stops last time, you probably were again this time even with your higher ride height. Get off them, and you'll be fine.

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Going to go amazon some fogging oil.
You don't need fogging oil. I've done a dozen engines, none of them have rusted. What are engines filled with? Oil. They won't rust. Just don't have them cleaned and then put the parts away. Get them machined and cleaned when you're ready to reassemble.

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<p>Why do they need a sleeve. Isn't the point of delrin that it makes good sliding surface?</p><p>Engine isn't coming apart till the move, amazon is easier.</p>

<p>Wow, first time ive ever seen osmething cheaper at vatozone than amazon.</p>
maybe something is getting lost in translation

they need to be like this
sean's cheap thrills, 90 1.6 with subaru td04

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<p>I think your solution is to drag race on 4 spares. Probably won't get as much wheel hop.</p>
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Don't get ebay rods, you may end up having to do more machining to them then they're worth. Get Manley rods from a reputable source like 949. The 4 sets I've installed haven't had any oil clearance issues when I plasti-gauged them.</p><p>
</p><p>Machining in what way? I've heard lots of good stuff about the ebay rods.</p><p>
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</p><p>Don't forget Wiseco rings. Unless you wanna rebuild it more than John Mann. I think you wanna plan on deleting your oil jets too.</p><p>
</p><p>Yep, on the list.</p><p>
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</p><p>No, they don't. You suck at setting up a drag car.</p><p>Your wheel hop problem will not be solved by delrin bushings. You were on the bump stops last time, you probably were again this time even with your higher ride height. Get off them, and you'll be fine.</p><p>
</p><p>Not true. They have everything against them as a drag car. Rubber bushings, IRS, PPF, etc. List goes one. I have about 2.5&quot; of travel, and the bumpstops put me right about where the axles are parallel, where its supposed to be.&nbsp;</p><p>
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</p><p>You don't need fogging oil. I've done a dozen engines, none of them have rusted. What are engines filled with? Oil. They won't rust. Just don't have them cleaned and then put the parts away. Get them machined and cleaned when you're ready to reassemble.
</p><p>True. But this isn't going to happen overnight, and I plan on trying to powdercoat the block, and other fun stuff.</p><p>
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maybe something is getting lost in translation they need to be like this sean's cheap thrills, 90 1.6 with subaru td04 also a good read http://www.dupont.com/content/dam/du...20Bearings.pdf
</p><p>I know they need to be like that. But I was wondering why. I'll read more later.</p>
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</p><p>I think your solution is to drag race on 4 spares. Probably won't get as much wheel hop.</p><p>
</p><p>I'm actually going to try and get some take off radials. Maybe even wrinkle walls.&nbsp;The discount tire near my house has them on occasion.</p>
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The delrin needs something to rotate against that isnt a threaded bolt, or a cam....

The pick up points need to clamp against something to maintain alignment among other important things...
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you have so many issue with tps
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this is the stuff right here. not only is it hard to come by, but this is less than half of what it usually sells for.

Delrin AF 2 1 Blend Rod 2" Dia Bar x 1ft 12" Acetal US Seller Free Shipping | eBay
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Not bad. 4 bushings a stick? I need to get better at the lathe. I'm not good at being precise with it.
<br />Need to watch some youtube.
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Not bad. 4 bushings a stick? I need to get better at the lathe. I'm not good at being precise with it.
<br />Need to watch some youtube.
you get at least 4 out of a foot
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