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Old 11-25-2014, 04:28 AM   #861
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Can anyone tell me why an MS2e would be a bad idea for my setup? This isn't a DD. I've got a trade opportunity for my AEM that would work out sweet and easy for both parties. And involves me saving about $600 vs. Selling my AEM and buying the PNPPro.

Vlad said it's not as good as MS3 but will it be plenty good for my needs? I think so but my research may be incomplete.
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Can anyone tell me why an MS2e would be a bad idea for my setup? This isn't a DD. I've got a trade opportunity for my AEM that would work out sweet and easy for both parties. And involves me saving about $600 vs. Selling my AEM and buying the PNPPro.

Vlad said it's not as good as MS3 but will it be plenty good for my needs? I think so but my research may be incomplete.
This thread is a year old, but it seemed to have some pretty decent content.

MS3 or MS2 Enhanced

EDIT: It's 3:30am and I just realized you were comparing to a PNPpro. I have nothing better to replace my previous comment with. Srys :/
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:35 AM   #863
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That's alright! Thanks for sharing. The regular MS3 was going to be just dandy for my needs, just for the cost difference I was going to go all out and get the pro. But with this opportunity (trade my AEM for a MSLabs PNP MS2e + cash) for minimal hassle I'm feeling conservative, ha.
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Old 11-25-2014, 10:06 AM   #864
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IMO many of the things that make the 3 better you wouldn't really desparately need anyway, because racecar. If you're saving a ton of money this way, and the car is not a daily, and its convenient, and most imporantly if this ms2e unit is for your car (pnp) I don't see why not. I've been pretty happy with the last few I tuned, no complaints.
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Old 11-25-2014, 10:26 AM   #865
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Heck, I'm happy with MS1s.
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Old 11-25-2014, 01:17 PM   #866
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I <3 u guyths. Gonna do the trade.
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I told you, look here:

MS Labs ECU Comparison Sheet

The processor is half as fast*, it has an 1/8th the processor flash*, it has a 1/16th the processor RAM*, but it has a coprocessor*, one less output, although 4 of those are ignition outputs (can't do V8?), has a few more inputs, doesn't do on board data logging, VVT control is only optional, EGT is optional, it has an input for clutch/brake/neutral*, doesn't do RTC*, and ignition and afr tables are only 12x12. Among other things.

*I have no idea what these things mean in relation to what it can do.
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Old 11-25-2014, 02:32 PM   #868
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Hmm that's weird, that sheet doesn't show boost by gear but I was under the impression that it DOES do boost by gear. Weird.

Also: I do not know how you found that page, lol. I was looking for it and ended up simply reading a couple threads about it in Rev's vendor section.
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Old 11-25-2014, 02:40 PM   #869
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Yeah, I had a few issues finding it, but its on post #33 of his big MS3 basic thread.

I've also stickied it in his vendor section, cause I getting tired of digging for it too.
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Very good.

At this point I don't care about specs, I care about what works. I am confident I can get my money back out of it if it doesn't do what I want it to do. Onward and upward. I hope shipping to Canada won't be too expensive, eh.
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:15 PM   #871
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Can I get some input on the PO's problem?

Pouring life blood and $$ into my MSM build

Issues with VEAL and tunerstudio and idle control.
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Happy thanksgiving.





FMMFL!!

I wasn't even the one driving this time... Like father like son. That's what I get for taking it out when it's wet. Dad sure is beating himself up over it though.

I am just at a loss here. I.... Ugh.

Man... What should I do next? Now it's the other QP and I'm sure there's more damage.

It's DEFINITELY re-shell time. Good chance will go NA instead of NB. Who knows. For now.... I cry.
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FMMFL!!

I wasn't even the one driving this time... Like father like son. That's what I get for taking it out when it's wet. Dad sure is beating himself up over it though.

I am just at a loss here. I.... Ugh.

Man... What should I do next? Now it's the other QP and I'm sure there's more damage.

It's DEFINITELY re-shell time. Good chance will go NA instead of NB. Who knows. For now.... I cry.
Nooo!! Is everyone OK? That looks nasty
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Shitcan it, buy a Civic.

Edit*
Or
Rebuild, paint red and call it Christine.
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It was nasty. My dad is getting checked at the ER but he seems OK, I'm feeling stiff but fine.

Dillon perhaps you missed the part where I wasn't driving.
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Hence calling it Christine.
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Damn. Glad your dad sounds like he's in good hands, hopefully nothing reers it's ugly head in the next 36 hours.

Let me know when you want me to do another MSM partout. Parts are all free for you Ed
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Jesus christ....your luck is worse than mine. So so sorry Ed. Both for the car and any potential injuries you and your dad receive.

This is making me glad I rarely drive it unless I plan on the track/autocross.
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wow


sorry man, that is absolutely nuts.
I hope you both are ok, cars can be replaced, lives/health are a different story.
There is a bright side to all of this. You just can't see it yet

Best wishes dude
(and you have my number if I can be of help with anything)
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Wow ed, shitty luck. I say part it and do a kswap in an NA.
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