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Old 01-18-2014, 07:47 PM   #1241
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What do you guys think of this? I wont bait it by giving my opinion yet.

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I guess that is sort of relevant to this thread.

WHY the **** do people think marijuana is somehow bad and dangerous? Nobody ever went on a killing rampage on weed. People don't get lung cancer from weed like they do on cigarettes. You can have a joint or smoke a bowl and still function in your daily life, much like cigarettes.

And besides, why the **** does the government care at all what people smoke or shoot, so long as it doesn't directly effect the rest of us. Well, I can answer my own question. Money.
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Not money. Control. Money is just one means of that.
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I could care less...

But i also think caffeine is a drug.

That video is sorta off topic for this thread i think.
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[QUOTE=nitrodann;

What do you guys think of this? I wont bait it by giving my opinion yet.

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Feinstein said "I believe" so much that is sounded like a religious testimonial.

Capra said a lot things very emotionally.
Loudly he whispered a lot of fallacious bs and outright lied.
He was not specific about where things tried have failed. Maybe he figures altering an approach to be failure. Change = failure? I gathered that the Dutch tightened up on the drug tourism.

Oh well, "Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus" = soon as he lied about one thing I suppose there is not a lot of use to expend energy to address the rest point by point.

Barry McCaffrey pissed off the Dutch when he told his lies about them. Maybe that influenced Capra to not give examples of where anything has failed every time.
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Not money. Control. Money is just one means of that.
Yes, I guess that is the overall goal. Anything to keep us little people down. Obey, little people.
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Guys are a little annoying, but I enjoyed it. Probably good to just scroll through, since it's a lot of the same, but with a few encounters sprinkled throughout.

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I could care less...

But i also think caffeine is a drug.

That video is sorta off topic for this thread i think.
OT?
Warrior cop? Police state?
Until 9/11 that war on drugs has been of the greatest use and excuse to militarize the police and expand powers for SWAT to crash and smash on just any sort of warrant.

"Let me pat you down for weapons ... that feels like a bag of marijuana!"
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Warrior cop? Police state?
Until 9/11 that war on drugs has been of the greatest use and excuse to militarize the police and expand powers for SWAT to crash and smash on just any sort of warrant.

"Let me pat you down for weapons ... that feels like a bag of marijuana!"
I'm willing to bet that the legalization of marijuana would change nothing. Other than the integrity of our country and it's people.
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I'm willing to bet that the legalization of marijuana would change nothing. Other than the integrity of our country and it's people.
That, and they can collect taxes, which they can **** away.
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Guys are a little annoying, but I enjoyed it. Probably good to just scroll through, since it's a lot of the same, but with a few encounters sprinkled throughout.
Yuh - they do seem the annoying sort whatever I might think of their "mission"

It brought to mind of a forum I am banned from posting. There was discussion about cams on cops. Some were all in agreement that the money wasted on cams would be better spent if to just hire one more cop to fight crime. I suppose them Suffolk police could use another cop to fight seat-belt crime.
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Yuh - they do seem the annoying sort whatever I might think of their "mission"

It brought to mind of a forum I am banned from posting. There was discussion about cams on cops. Some were all in agreement that the money wasted on cams would be better spent if to just hire one more cop to fight crime. I suppose them Suffolk police could use another cop to fight seat-belt crime.
Exactly. Hire another enforcer of the law, so these scum of society who drive without seat belts can be caught. And also, so that those maniacs that travel at breakneck speeds 5 over the speed limit, which is already set dangerously low in a lot of places so officers can set up speed traps to collect more money and get that promotion, can be brought to justice. I would feel much safer if 3 police cars instead of 2 pulled in behind me every time I am stopped for driving at 3am, which is apparently means for suspicion.
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The 3 times i've been pulled over have all been at night / later than midnight.
One on my way to work at 4am for "rolling" a stop sign.
One time DDing my friends back from a party around 3am, i had a license plate bulb out.
Lastly driving up north (northern Michigan super dark and not even houses around), made a left turn at a back country road and didn't use my blinker. It was about 1am. I was pulled out of my vehicle and waited out in the blistering cold while 3 or 4 cops pulled up and searched my car.
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I've been stopped maybe 6 or 7 times. Most of them were late night/early morning stops. All for either no legitimate reason, or for speeding of less than 5 over. One was for no license plate sticker, which either fell off or was stolen, which cost me in the long run $3 to replace, but $300 bond for my FTA (my fault, though being summoned to court over that was ******* retarded, which is why the prosecutor apologized and dropped all charges).

I was once harassed by a small town PD while pulled over on the side of a rarely traveled country road with flashers and running lights on, where I was looking in the ditch with a flashlight for whatever fell off of my car, or out of the engine bay, as this was a day after I rebuilt the engine and was test driving it late night with no traffic to contend with. He pulled up as I was getting back to my car and spot lighted me and came out to play 20 questions. I stood there with my driver door open, where my pistol was in the little door pocket. When I got my license out he saw the CCW and asked if I had a pistol on me. "No sir, it's in my car", I said, which got me the reaction of a step back and hand on his pistol from the officer. He then told me to step away from my car. I complied just to avoid argument. He then searched my car without asking for consent, and in the following 45 minutes, another 3 cars arrived, which must have been the entire goddamn force for this town of maybe 1000 people. They then claimed my pistol was stolen, even though I had bought it new less than a year prior, from a large retail chain. They couldn't provide any proof of what they claimed, and after some attempts at intimidation and assholery, they let me go with my stolen pistol... The whole encounter was ridiculous and every officer involved was unreasonably uppity and rude to someone who had done absolutely nothing illegal or wrong.

So, in my personal experience, I have never required the help of a police officer, and I have never been stopped or been fined for a legitimate or reasonable reason (I don't consider stopping speeders a benefit to continuing function of our society, unless of course they are driving like they are Paul Walker. Not crashing into trees, but as his character in F&F) So no love here. The more I see what is going on around me, the more openly I say, **** the police.
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And besides, why the **** does the government care at all what people smoke or shoot, so long as it doesn't directly effect the rest of us. Well, I can answer my own question. Money.
Sorry for the late response, but if you go back through the history of drug laws, basically all of them are rooted in bigotry against a particular minority.
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Sorry for the late response, but if you go back through the history of drug laws, basically all of them are rooted in bigotry against a particular minority.
I've had impression that it was commercial interest as root and that bigotry was one of their tools.
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Man stopped by cops 258 times, searched more than 100 times and arrested 56 times in a 4 year period for trespassing at his own job. Racial profiling much officers? Outrageous.


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Disgusted, my general feeling of most of everything in this thread.

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