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Actually the stock braking system is quite adequate. Especially in a lightened miata. Many many national competing race miatas use the stock calipers. With the proper rotor, pads, and brake fluid the stock system will handle most track days.
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Your choice of pads is not going to be enough. Have you ever done a track day? If so why would you choose kyb shocks with springs? There are some things you need to re-consider.
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i did a good bit of research on cheap suspension set-ups and i've learned that racing beat springs are only good for lowering and **** handeling, and kyb dampers are short-lived.
why not the Tokico Illumina's and FM springs? awesome cheap set-up or groundcontrols and illuminas for coilover's that arent that much more?
why not the Tokico Illumina's and FM springs? awesome cheap set-up or groundcontrols and illuminas for coilover's that arent that much more?
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Acting like you know what you're talking about is a great way to look retarded around people who do.
Hawk HPS pads will fade your FIRST lap out, if you know how to drive (which I doubt).
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I never said the stock system WASN'T adequate what im saying is that your chose of setup will NOT be adequate. How light do you expect to get your car?
Your chose of pads is not going to be enough. Have you ever done a track day? If so why would you choose kyb shocks with springs? There are some things you need to re-consider.
Your chose of pads is not going to be enough. Have you ever done a track day? If so why would you choose kyb shocks with springs? There are some things you need to re-consider.
I think the car in race form should be 2200lbs at the most. I'm shooting for 2100lbs. I choose kyb agx's because I've used them before and was very satisfied with the valving and ease of adjustments and Racing beat springs are perfect for mild track days. I'm not looking to be competitive just fun.
Only thing coilovers give you is adjustable ride height, more spring choices, more tire choices, and corner weighting. Since i'm happy with the ride height, spring rate, tire size, and not to serious yet on suspension this will be just perfect. Plus budget dictates Kyb with springs. After a few track days I may find my self wanting more but untill then they will do me fine.
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Acting like you know what you're talking about is a great way to look smart around people who don't.
Acting like you know what you're talking about is a great way to look retarded around people who do.
Hawk HPS pads will fade your FIRST lap out, if you know how to drive (which I doubt).
Acting like you know what you're talking about is a great way to look retarded around people who do.
Hawk HPS pads will fade your FIRST lap out, if you know how to drive (which I doubt).
THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO GIVE SOMEONE YOUR OPINION THEN TELLING THEM THEY ARE WRONG
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LOL
too funny. savington has that affect on people.
i agree with savington though, if your driving properly stock brakes don't do squat. I'm running stock brakes with Hawk DTC-60's, aka rotor eaters, right now. During the end of the track session, maybe 15 minutes in, you start to feel fade as well. I'm moving up to bbk asap. I'm on 2 track events with the DTC-60's and they're almost game over too, along with my rotor.
too funny. savington has that affect on people.
i agree with savington though, if your driving properly stock brakes don't do squat. I'm running stock brakes with Hawk DTC-60's, aka rotor eaters, right now. During the end of the track session, maybe 15 minutes in, you start to feel fade as well. I'm moving up to bbk asap. I'm on 2 track events with the DTC-60's and they're almost game over too, along with my rotor.
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i did a good bit of research on cheap suspension set-ups and i've learned that racing beat springs are only good for lowering and **** handeling, and kyb dampers are short-lived.
why not the Tokico Illumina's and FM springs? awesome cheap set-up or groundcontrols and illuminas for coilover's that arent that much more?
why not the Tokico Illumina's and FM springs? awesome cheap set-up or groundcontrols and illuminas for coilover's that arent that much more?
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LOL
too funny. savington has that affect on people.
i agree with savington though, if your driving properly stock brakes don't do squat. I'm running stock brakes with Hawk DTC-60's, aka rotor eaters, right now. During the end of the track session, maybe 15 minutes in, you start to feel fade as well. I'm moving up to bbk asap. I'm on 2 track events with the DTC-60's and they're almost game over too, along with my rotor.
too funny. savington has that affect on people.
i agree with savington though, if your driving properly stock brakes don't do squat. I'm running stock brakes with Hawk DTC-60's, aka rotor eaters, right now. During the end of the track session, maybe 15 minutes in, you start to feel fade as well. I'm moving up to bbk asap. I'm on 2 track events with the DTC-60's and they're almost game over too, along with my rotor.
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Here's the deal I HAVE TO rebuild the engine. And decided to go turbo so those are unfortunately the two things I decided I HAVE to do. After that I am trying to build up what I can on my budget. Just because I can't afford what you run doesn't mean I won't have fun with it. The car will still out handle most vehicles and should be fun on the track. I will upgrade what I can when I can.
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At least do yourself a favor and don't waste the money on springs. Get a set of Koni Sports instead, and when you get more money upgrade to Ground Controls, and then revalve the Konis. You'll end up with my setup at the end of the day, which is probably one of the best sub-$2k setups out there.
Slotted rotors are ****, don't tell anyone here they are anything other than **** if you expect to maintain a modicum of respect. Solid rotors from NAPA are cheap and good.
Spend the money in pads. HPS pads are a joke, and anyone with track experience knows it. HP+ pads are only slightly better. Get a set of Carbotechs, XP10s front and XP8s rear. They are street driveable (you cut your dashboard in half, don't give me a single word about pad noise), cold bite is fine, and you will never fade them. Ever.
Slotted rotors are ****, don't tell anyone here they are anything other than **** if you expect to maintain a modicum of respect. Solid rotors from NAPA are cheap and good.
Spend the money in pads. HPS pads are a joke, and anyone with track experience knows it. HP+ pads are only slightly better. Get a set of Carbotechs, XP10s front and XP8s rear. They are street driveable (you cut your dashboard in half, don't give me a single word about pad noise), cold bite is fine, and you will never fade them. Ever.