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Old 05-18-2015, 02:12 PM   #301
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Many 2871s I've seen can be had for even less than the 2560r. Just need to locate the right dealer. When I use to work parts we could get a 2871 for less than the 2560. Some sellers pass on the savings to the consumer.
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Old 05-18-2015, 05:20 PM   #302
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For a silvia replacement I mean this particular one : T25 T28 T25/T28 TURBOCHARGER NISSAN 200SX S13 S14 TURBO | eBay

just to boost the car again until I finally got €€€ enough for a bb gt2560r

TURBINA TURBO GARRETT GT2560R SU DOPPI CUSCINETTI 330 CAVALLI ORIGINALE garrett | eBay


I know that there is a little price difference between the 2560 and 2680, but I'm scared about driveability (it's my daily car).
2860+long tube manifold equals late spool? As it is now the car is undriveable, as the boost comes only after third gear and 5k rpm...
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Old 05-18-2015, 05:26 PM   #303
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a proper 2860rs or 2871r reaches peak or near peak torque between 3500-4000.

So no, it would not be laggy. And would put out close to 350-400whp

It's not the same as your chinacharer, despite the similar nomenclature
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Old 05-19-2015, 06:14 AM   #304
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a proper 2860rs or 2871r reaches peak or near peak torque between 3500-4000.

So no, it would not be laggy. And would put out close to 350-400whp

It's not the same as your chinacharer, despite the similar nomenclature
that's a good thing.

this is a choice I have to make once. This is why I was looking for a 2560: good for maybe 300hp but with good power under 4k rpm, just a little bit chocked at high revs.

I'm so unsure, even for the choice of the temporary chinacharger

sav's 2011 opinion Small (0.64 a/r) GT2860 dynos or boost datalogs

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the bottom line though is you can't really compare chinacharger to the real deal in terms of spool and torque onset. they're quite different. looks like you're injector limited anyway though
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If not a competitive event, the 2560 is a pretty sweet all around turbo.

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Old 05-29-2015, 05:04 PM   #307
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If not a competitive event, the 2560 is a pretty sweet all around turbo.

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this is what my brain told me, but my body wants the 2860... I've not deceided yet...

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the bottom line though is you can't really compare chinacharger to the real deal in terms of spool and torque onset. they're quite different. looks like you're injector limited anyway though
Indeed. the rx8's are 100% opened from 4500 rpm until redline.

next step are ev14 610 or ID 750 (I haven't choose yet) and dw200 or similar pump

Btw, a few days ago I understood why the boost was too late and was too low on the dyno: the wastegate itself was stucked open
chinachargers...

Hammer + screwdriver and it's (more or less) working again. 1.2 bar from 5k rpm on. Good power and torque btw, virtual dyno says near 300hp.

downside of the medal: yesterday night when I was wot on 4th gear (remember: 6 spd + 3.636 torsen) and went in full boost suddenly I heared an awful cracking noise, the rpm went from 5k to 7k instantly and the shift **** jumped to neutral on her own...

this was the noise:


towed the car, and today I inspected...













well... f**k.
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Old 05-29-2015, 05:27 PM   #308
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Time for an RX7 carrier housing!
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:43 PM   #309
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I feel sorry for you mate, you are having a lot of trouble with this car!

Out of interest is it your own work pit?
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Old 06-01-2015, 06:29 AM   #310
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Time for an RX7 carrier housing!
A friend of mine gave me another housing, if it fails again I have to do something...
Is the rx7's housing pnp? including the diff mounts.



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I feel sorry for you mate, you are having a lot of trouble with this car!

Out of interest is it your own work pit?

I'm sorry, english isn't my first language.. what are you meaning?
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A friend of mine gave me another housing, if it fails again I have to do something...
Is the rx7's housing pnp? including the diff mounts.
Sorta, there is minor work that needs to be done to run an RX7 housing, but if you break another housing you will either have to gusset another Miata carrier or go with an RX7 diff. Unless you want to spend some big money on something else more robust.
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Old 06-01-2015, 10:46 AM   #312
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How the hell are you breaking housings like that?
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How the hell are you breaking housings like that?
wheel hop, or too much powah.
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I'm sorry, english isn't my first language.. what are you meaning?
You seem to have lots of interesting equipment, a hoist, a pit, lots of open space. Is that at your workplace?
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You seem to have lots of interesting equipment, a hoist, a pit, lots of open space. Is that at your workplace?
Got it.
Sadly my workplace was just the open space, but a friend of mine lent me his pit for two days, just to build the exhaust line. Everything else was make without a garage, under the sky...
One day, maybe... I will buy a garage.
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Finally I made my choice...
GT2560R with inconel shaft.
-turbine .60 cold side, .62 hot side A/R
-51mm (2") inlet/outlet flanges (garrett ones)
-0.9mm oil restrictor
850 shipped

I have to adapt someway the feed line, because now is a banjo bolt one, but nothing difficult.

I also find another housing, but I'm waiting for the side oil seals for over a week!

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Old 06-18-2015, 07:05 AM   #317
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That seems like a lot of packaging for one little restrictor.
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:21 AM   #319
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yes, indeed.
I paid a lot for that restrictor, but they included a turbo for free







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Old 06-18-2015, 07:26 AM   #320
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I noticed that this topic becomed a "build" one... Can it be moved in the media section?
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