Originally Posted by tonyt4
You stupid ***** never gave me an answer. Its like a ******* megasquirt advertisement on this site..
Lol @ this thread. We're being helpful past all the BS. They honestly just don't know anything beyond MS, and for good reason.
I, however, do. That's the wrong afpr you have there. You need something with a boost reference, so as pressure increases, so does your fueling.
You need something like this, for $225:
Plus you don't have anything to change your timing, which can be almost as dangerous as not changing your fueling system, so you'll need something like this, for $210:
Then, because you're increasing your fuel by increasing your fuel pressure (this is why you can get away with NEAR stock sized injectors), you'll need an upgraded fuel pump to deliver the increased pressure consistently and reliably. Like this, for $110:
And as I mentioned during the fuel pump discussion, although your stock injectors can handle roughly 3 or 4 psi, that's it. After that you'll need either 1.8 injectors (if you have a 1.6), or something else in the sub 300cc/min range which will run you roughly $50-$100.
So now you're up at $600 minimum, not including shipping. I didn't include things like an o2 clamp either, which will run around $125, but isn't completely nessecary.
Now you have the MS option. Braineack, Reverent, that jewish guy, Wayne_Curr, and a few others all build MS's, along with the option of buying a MSPNP brand new for $595. I believe the member built units go for around $100 less. After that you'll need bigger injectors for $100-200, and an AIT sensor for $30.
Both these options can be had for used. This is technically where MS does come out more expensive, as they're still catching a premium in the used market, where band aids are selling dirt cheap. Although I have seen MS's go as cheap as $175, like this one, although it's pending sale:
91 Turbo Partout
ANY AND ALL OF THESE SYSTEMS REQUIRES A WIDEBAND OXYGEN SENSOR