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Old 12-27-2011, 11:23 PM   #1
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Hi, I am planning on turboing my Miata and I have a few questions.

First of all, I am not planning on buying a megasquirt for a while. I think that all I will need for engine management is a wideband and an afpr. Is that right?
I was thinking something like this? : http://www.enjukuracing.com/products...Regulator.html

And also, is there any place I can buy the intake piping that already has places for the hoses by the throttle body? Is it possible to just use the stock intake piping?

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Old 12-27-2011, 11:52 PM   #3
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An eBay turbo kit and an FAQ that doesn't provide the answer?
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I'd say a kit like this would be your best bet. That way your installing a kit made for your car.
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I should have been more specific. I have the turbo and everything, I just don't have the intake piping. I have already purchased everything else.
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Start with Megasquirt or don't do it at all. BE A MAN ABOUT IT!!!
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I agree, a MS-1 isn't much more expensive then the band-aids.

http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/m...ase-p-128.html

Or be a baus and get a MS3X like me.
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I agree, a MS-1 isn't much more expensive then the band-aids.

http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/m...ase-p-128.html

Or be a baus and get a MS3X like me.
I can't solder worth a damn. Could someone just answer the questions? I realize that I should of bought a megasquirt, but I already have almost everything, so I will get one at a later time.
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I don't know the answer b/c I'm not going to mess w/ band-aids. I'd do a search and read some stickies if I where you.
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Can someone please tell me what I want to hear? I am queer.
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Have fun blowing up your car.
Very mature. I didn't know this site was run by a bunch of ******* 12-year-olds.
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Very mature. I didn't know this site was run by a bunch of ******* 12-year-olds.
Well now you know. You're the one who started a thread to ask a question, didn't like the answer, then decide to complain like a ****** because we didn't give you an answer that you wanted to hear.
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Yes, we're all 12 years old. We never age and can not drive the cars we have, we are however very knowledgeable about our girl cars, I'm pretty sure Husler is a sorority girl who use to drive a Jetta.
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Well now you know. You're the one who started a thread to ask a question, didn't like the answer, then decide to complain like a ****** because we didn't give you an answer that you wanted to hear.
You stupid ***** never gave me an answer. Its like a ******* megasquirt advertisement on this site..
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Yes, we're all 12 years old. We never age and can not drive the cars we have, we are however very knowledgeable about our girl cars, I'm pretty sure Husler is a sorority girl who use to drive a Jetta.
Show us your hairless, 12-year old body.
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You stupid ***** never gave me an answer. Its like a ******* megasquirt advertisement on this site..
There is a reason we have such a strong opinion on the need for MS, and it's not your closet homosexuality or chronic impotence.
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I control my bowel movements with my MS3XP (the P stands for poo).

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I control my bowel movements with my MS3XP (the P stands for poo).



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I'm going to print the picture and put down some "mud" on it.
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You stupid ***** never gave me an answer. Its like a ******* megasquirt advertisement on this site..
Lol @ this thread. We're being helpful past all the BS. They honestly just don't know anything beyond MS, and for good reason.

I, however, do. That's the wrong afpr you have there. You need something with a boost reference, so as pressure increases, so does your fueling.

You need something like this, for $225:
http://www.bellengineering.net/produ...&products_id=4

Plus you don't have anything to change your timing, which can be almost as dangerous as not changing your fueling system, so you'll need something like this, for $210:
http://www.crosslake.net/~dbipes/BipesACU/index.htm

Then, because you're increasing your fuel by increasing your fuel pressure (this is why you can get away with NEAR stock sized injectors), you'll need an upgraded fuel pump to deliver the increased pressure consistently and reliably. Like this, for $110:
http://www.1aauto.com/1A/fuel_pump/M...FWgaQgodIjoMlw

And as I mentioned during the fuel pump discussion, although your stock injectors can handle roughly 3 or 4 psi, that's it. After that you'll need either 1.8 injectors (if you have a 1.6), or something else in the sub 300cc/min range which will run you roughly $50-$100.

So now you're up at $600 minimum, not including shipping. I didn't include things like an o2 clamp either, which will run around $125, but isn't completely nessecary.

Now you have the MS option. Braineack, Reverent, that jewish guy, Wayne_Curr, and a few others all build MS's, along with the option of buying a MSPNP brand new for $595. I believe the member built units go for around $100 less. After that you'll need bigger injectors for $100-200, and an AIT sensor for $30.

Both these options can be had for used. This is technically where MS does come out more expensive, as they're still catching a premium in the used market, where band aids are selling dirt cheap. Although I have seen MS's go as cheap as $175, like this one, although it's pending sale:
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/91-turbo-partout-62389/

ANY AND ALL OF THESE SYSTEMS REQUIRES A WIDEBAND OXYGEN SENSOR
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