Yes, its another Ebay Manifold question
#2
People are saying they are made out of sub quality steel and have very thin walls.
Look at it this way, for the price you can always get another one. In fact I think there is one on there right now thats 130 bucks.
Me personally, I believe in doing it once and doing it right so I wouldnt get one.
Look at it this way, for the price you can always get another one. In fact I think there is one on there right now thats 130 bucks.
Me personally, I believe in doing it once and doing it right so I wouldnt get one.
#6
Experience, if you get this manifold be careful how you brace the wastegate. I broke mine but only because I was stupid. The steel was actually pretty thick wall. The wastegate mount is particularly sensitive to having weight suspended from it.
Also you will need to likely surface the flange to get it flat, and I had to redrill the holes as well to make it fit. No problem with the steel itself. Mine cracked in 3 weeks but was repairable, I decided to go with a BEGI after that. It also interferes with the radiator hoses.
Also you will need to likely surface the flange to get it flat, and I had to redrill the holes as well to make it fit. No problem with the steel itself. Mine cracked in 3 weeks but was repairable, I decided to go with a BEGI after that. It also interferes with the radiator hoses.
#7
jobambo-
You will find it very difficult to get first hand info, I couldn't find one positive post on using these manifolds on a Miata (they seem to work fine for other cars though). Internet wisdom and rumors are self perpetuating.
I have Markp's old manifold, I did a very poor weld on the crack that I didn't think was that bad. I ran it about 1,500 miles with no bracing. No cracking or anything falling off. I have since braced the turbo and external wastegate and still no problems.
After 3,500 miles (3 double driver autox's, a trip to the dragstrip and 3rd gear wheelspin every day) the cheap chinese ebay turbo(T3/T4), wastegate(38mm), bov(SSQV knockoff), intercooler, piping, silicone connectors AND the exhaust manifold are all functioning perfectly.
With the WG on the #4 primary it only has enough control to creep to 10psi at 7400rpms. I now see this as a feature. Running a very light spring in the WG gives a fairly linear boost rise to redline. A flip of a switch enables the boost control solenoid and it becomes a completely different experience.
You will find it very difficult to get first hand info, I couldn't find one positive post on using these manifolds on a Miata (they seem to work fine for other cars though). Internet wisdom and rumors are self perpetuating.
I have Markp's old manifold, I did a very poor weld on the crack that I didn't think was that bad. I ran it about 1,500 miles with no bracing. No cracking or anything falling off. I have since braced the turbo and external wastegate and still no problems.
After 3,500 miles (3 double driver autox's, a trip to the dragstrip and 3rd gear wheelspin every day) the cheap chinese ebay turbo(T3/T4), wastegate(38mm), bov(SSQV knockoff), intercooler, piping, silicone connectors AND the exhaust manifold are all functioning perfectly.
With the WG on the #4 primary it only has enough control to creep to 10psi at 7400rpms. I now see this as a feature. Running a very light spring in the WG gives a fairly linear boost rise to redline. A flip of a switch enables the boost control solenoid and it becomes a completely different experience.
#9
The manifold im looking at does not have an external wastegate. here is the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...spagenameZWDVW
anyone have experience with this one directly?
The main reason im asking this is because "XO racing" has been selling their cheap 100% ebay kits for the Supra crowd for a long long time and not a single complaint about the quality.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...spagenameZWDVW
anyone have experience with this one directly?
The main reason im asking this is because "XO racing" has been selling their cheap 100% ebay kits for the Supra crowd for a long long time and not a single complaint about the quality.
#10
Whoa! major miss representation alert!
That E-bay ad is using pics of Corky Bell's S4 manifold from the BEGi website. MarkP, somebody, anybody, call Corky so he can put the smack down.
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I am referring to the pictures of the manifold mounted on a motor. I've stared at those pictures for hours, while making turbo spooling noises and giggling uncontrollably. :gay:
That E-bay ad is using pics of Corky Bell's S4 manifold from the BEGi website. MarkP, somebody, anybody, call Corky so he can put the smack down.
------- Edit ---------------------------------
I am referring to the pictures of the manifold mounted on a motor. I've stared at those pictures for hours, while making turbo spooling noises and giggling uncontrollably. :gay:
Last edited by MazDilla; 10-27-2007 at 04:44 PM. Reason: Add calirfying details
#11
Whoa! major miss representation alert!
That E-bay ad is using pics of Corky Bell's S4 manifold from the BEGi website. MarkP, somebody, anybody, call Corky so he can put the smack down.
------- Edit ---------------------------------
I am referring to the pictures of the manifold mounted on a motor. I've stared at those pictures for hours, while making turbo spooling noises and giggling uncontrollably. :gay:
That E-bay ad is using pics of Corky Bell's S4 manifold from the BEGi website. MarkP, somebody, anybody, call Corky so he can put the smack down.
------- Edit ---------------------------------
I am referring to the pictures of the manifold mounted on a motor. I've stared at those pictures for hours, while making turbo spooling noises and giggling uncontrollably. :gay:
#13
Whoa! major miss representation alert!
That E-bay ad is using pics of Corky Bell's S4 manifold from the BEGi website. MarkP, somebody, anybody, call Corky so he can put the smack down.
------- Edit ---------------------------------
I am referring to the pictures of the manifold mounted on a motor. I've stared at those pictures for hours, while making turbo spooling noises and giggling uncontrollably. :gay:
That E-bay ad is using pics of Corky Bell's S4 manifold from the BEGi website. MarkP, somebody, anybody, call Corky so he can put the smack down.
------- Edit ---------------------------------
I am referring to the pictures of the manifold mounted on a motor. I've stared at those pictures for hours, while making turbo spooling noises and giggling uncontrollably. :gay:
Mark
PS - Someone did a really good job of copying. And yes, I sent Steph an IM and emailed the Ebayer about the copyrighted photos they stole.
Last edited by Markp; 10-27-2007 at 08:18 PM.
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Mark--more than a copy, those pics are literally lifted from BEGi's website. Just checked and saw them there.
http://www.bellengineering.net/Image...Miata_S4_4.JPG
http://www.bellengineering.net/Image...Miata_S4_3.JPG
http://www.bellengineering.net/Image...Miata_S4_4.JPG
http://www.bellengineering.net/Image...Miata_S4_3.JPG
#17
Mark--more than a copy, those pics are literally lifted from BEGi's website. Just checked and saw them there.
http://www.bellengineering.net/Image...Miata_S4_4.JPG
http://www.bellengineering.net/Image...Miata_S4_3.JPG
http://www.bellengineering.net/Image...Miata_S4_4.JPG
http://www.bellengineering.net/Image...Miata_S4_3.JPG
I told steph to go whomp on him.
Mark
#18
o really thats a begi knock off. so will a begi DP fit that.
from looking at the pics , i would say, it will not work with a/c, or p/s.
aside from missing the egr bung.
i was looking at this also., its cheap enough see how long it takes berfore it cracks.
i wonder if the begi DP will fit.
from looking at the pics , i would say, it will not work with a/c, or p/s.
aside from missing the egr bung.
i was looking at this also., its cheap enough see how long it takes berfore it cracks.
i wonder if the begi DP will fit.
Mark