How (and why) to Ramble on your goat sideways
04-06-2012, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Y8s
what's worse is they eat animal substitutes in some sort of sadistic evil plot to still feel like they've killed an animal.
This evening, as I was riding my bicycle home from work (thus consuming no foreign oil, generating no emissions, and getting a good workout all at the same time) I happened to stop by the grocery store to purchase meat and beer. While there, my curiosity was aroused and I did some investigating.
Here we see an organic, vegan, faux-meat product made by Turtle Island foods, which appears to be a popular brand. This particular example claims to emulate an Italian sausage:
And here is the backside of the product:
This meat-free sausage contains 270 calories and 13g of fat per hectogram. So that's our baseline.
I then wondered over to the "real meat" area, and picked an equivalent-looking sausage at random. This particular one contains feta cheese, which sounds tasty so I bought a pack:
And the reverse, showing us that it is free of antibiotics, hormones, preservatives, and made from animals which are not fed scraps of other animals. (It is also cheaper.):
Correcting for portion size, this sausage contains 175 calories and 11.25g of fat per hectogram. (And remember, cheese is the third ingredient, which bumps the fat content relative to a cheese-less sausage, but I said I'd pick one at random and I decided to stick with my first choice in the interest of fair science.)
So.....
yeah.
I'm not quite sure what the point of eating simulated meat is, given that it costs more than real meat, as is apparently not as good for you.
But I'm open to suggestions.
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04-06-2012, 10:56 PM
...as you throw them to the lions
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04-07-2012, 02:01 AM
Thats their fault. I hope they where extremely offended and weeped into their pillows before falling into a nightmarish slumber.
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04-07-2012, 10:07 AM
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Indeed they do. And,Now, I'm going to break from character here for a moment, as I haz a confused.
<upside down question mark kitty question mark>
This evening, as I was riding my bicycle home from work (thus consuming no foreign oil, generating no emissions, and getting a good workout all at the same time) I happened to stop by the grocery store to purchase meat and beer. While there, my curiosity was aroused and I did some investigating.
Here we see an organic, vegan, faux-meat product made by Turtle Island foods, which appears to be a popular brand. This particular example claims to emulate an Italian sausage:
<tofurkey sausage>
And here is the backside of the product:
<rear of tofurkey sausage>
This meat-free sausage contains 270 calories and 13g of fat per hectogram. So that's our baseline.
I then wondered over to the "real meat" area, and picked an equivalent-looking sausage at random. This particular one contains feta cheese, which sounds tasty so I bought a pack:
<chicken feta>
And the reverse, showing us that it is free of antibiotics, hormones, preservatives, and made from animals which are not fed scraps of other animals. (It is also cheaper.):
<chicken feta rear>
Correcting for portion size, this sausage contains 175 calories and 11.25g of fat per hectogram. (And remember, cheese is the third ingredient, which bumps the fat content relative to a cheese-less sausage, but I said I'd pick one at random and I decided to stick with my first choice in the interest of fair science.)
So.....
yeah.
I'm not quite sure what the point of eating simulated meat is, given that it costs more than real meat, as is apparently not as good for you.
But I'm open to suggestions.
<upside down question mark kitty question mark>
This evening, as I was riding my bicycle home from work (thus consuming no foreign oil, generating no emissions, and getting a good workout all at the same time) I happened to stop by the grocery store to purchase meat and beer. While there, my curiosity was aroused and I did some investigating.
Here we see an organic, vegan, faux-meat product made by Turtle Island foods, which appears to be a popular brand. This particular example claims to emulate an Italian sausage:
<tofurkey sausage>
And here is the backside of the product:
<rear of tofurkey sausage>
This meat-free sausage contains 270 calories and 13g of fat per hectogram. So that's our baseline.
I then wondered over to the "real meat" area, and picked an equivalent-looking sausage at random. This particular one contains feta cheese, which sounds tasty so I bought a pack:
<chicken feta>
And the reverse, showing us that it is free of antibiotics, hormones, preservatives, and made from animals which are not fed scraps of other animals. (It is also cheaper.):
<chicken feta rear>
Correcting for portion size, this sausage contains 175 calories and 11.25g of fat per hectogram. (And remember, cheese is the third ingredient, which bumps the fat content relative to a cheese-less sausage, but I said I'd pick one at random and I decided to stick with my first choice in the interest of fair science.)
So.....
yeah.
I'm not quite sure what the point of eating simulated meat is, given that it costs more than real meat, as is apparently not as good for you.
But I'm open to suggestions.
Think olive oil and fish oil. Those are both fat. And they are both good and critical to supporting human life. Your body can't produce essential fatty acids but they are essential.
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Second thing to note is the allegations on the chicken package.
It's against the law to feed chickens hormones. Period. Advertising it is like putting a sticker on your car that says "I am not murdering anyone"
no antibiotics is good.
vegetarian fed means jack. like cows eating corn instead of grass. meaningless.
plutonium is 100% natural. another BS claim.
no nitrates/nitrites is very good.
USDA Organic: means it has to comply with lots of stuff. this one is legit. I dont see it on the tofurky product probably because it's not up to the minimum % of ingredients to get the seal. hence take it with a grain of salt. sadly the USDA currently exempts hops from the organic requirement because samuel smith's beer lobbied to exclude them because of the limited amount of organic hops available. Wife tells me this is changing though.
back to the sausage wars:
the tofurky looks to have a bazillion carbs in it compared to the meat one. No surprise there as soybeans are pretty carb-heavy. fortunately it's mostly fiber and not mostly sugar. that means your body will pass most of it out the back door.
that said, the chicken feta sausage does look pretty tasty.
and I agree that the fake one appears to be less good for you. I suspect it's kind of like cupcakes. we dont eat them because they're good for us. we eat them because they're tasty. those are vegan cupcakes.
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04-07-2012, 12:06 PM
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"What is the most bauce way to tune cruise?" I thought you would never ask!!!
1.Get on highway
2.Place brick on throttle to maintain throttle position
3.Open fuel and spark tables
4.Adjust VE and spark tables to reduce PW at a given throttle position
5.Floss
1.Get on highway
2.Place brick on throttle to maintain throttle position
3.Open fuel and spark tables
4.Adjust VE and spark tables to reduce PW at a given throttle position
5.Floss
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04-07-2012, 12:56 PM
I'll throw a half-hearted disagreement out there. I agree it doesn't mean much, but there is a small nutritional difference.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-d...#axzz1rHcJPbNd
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-d...#axzz1rHcJPbNd
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04-07-2012, 01:02 PM
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I'll throw a half-hearted disagreement out there. I agree it doesn't mean much, but there is a small nutritional difference.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-d...#axzz1rHcJPbNd
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-d...#axzz1rHcJPbNd
you misunderstand my analysis!
"vegetarian fed" is meaningless (lets hope they aren't cannibals)
100% grass fed is HUGELY GOOD AND BENEFICIAL!
corn fed (while a plant) is lame.
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04-07-2012, 04:57 PM
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Vegan cupcakes are VERY good. As good as regular cupcakes. I remember nonvegan foods very well.
No, Tofurky italian sausage is nothing like regular italian sausage. It's not that bad though, especially in a hot dog bun.
2. fixing your own diet solves 1/7,000,000,000th of the problem. I married a sustainable ag advocate who attempts to change things on the production side. therefore I don't feel guilty eating meat (at least when I know where it came from and how it was produced). her work on the farm bill will (hopefully, eventually, unlikely because corn farmers love subsidies) ultimately improve the situation for the whole country, not just one skinny indonesian with questionable sawzall skillz.
Yeah I agree that I am "fixing" 1/7billionth of the problem but I am vegan to please myself. I also give a big pile of money and am leaving a damn big pile to PETA so I can leverage my personal impact on the lives of animals on the planet. Yay. I feel good about myself.
AND I AM NOT INDONESIAN NOR AM I SKINNY. you should feel bad for trolling me
Ok, I've had to do some research here to find the correct vocabulary to express my opprobrium.
"Ethical vegetarians" **** me off. These are the folks who refrain from eating animals or using animal products because it is morally wrong to so so. To quote ethicalvegetarian.com: "Although ethical vegetarians enjoy the benefits of the healthy diet and lifestyle of vegetarianism, they are not vegetarians because of health reasons: they are vegetarians because they want to minimize cruelty and death in the world. Good health is just a pleasant side-effect."
So, when an ethical vegetarian explains to me why it's wrong to have leather upholstery in my car, or even to drink most commercially-produced wines (because the fining agents used to clarify the wine are derived from animal products), and then they go and eat a slice of bread, that's just utter hypocrisy. If it is morally wrong to kill animals, then the production of bread is tantamount to genocide on a scale unparalleled in all of human history- more yeast are incinerated in a single hour at the baker's oven than the total number of people of all races put to death in all the concentration camps of WWII combined.
In fact, ethical vegetarians are inherently anti-Christian. The production of bread is discussed 361 times in the king James bible. It is practically a metaphor for the entire religion, inasmuch as Christ compares himself to bread, and promotes its ritualistic consumption to his disciples shortly before his execution.
So by their worldview, ethical vegetarians must denounce Christianity (as well as Judaism) as supporting the greatest and most widespread racial holocaust the world has ever known.
Given the present sociopolitical climate in the US, Christianity is very much in vogue right now, and weirdm scary people who denounce it are fit to be ostracised.
Is that really what you want? Do you want to murder baby Jesus? Because every time you refuse to kill and eat an animal, that's exactly what you are doing.
Down with ethical vegetarians.
"Ethical vegetarians" **** me off. These are the folks who refrain from eating animals or using animal products because it is morally wrong to so so. To quote ethicalvegetarian.com: "Although ethical vegetarians enjoy the benefits of the healthy diet and lifestyle of vegetarianism, they are not vegetarians because of health reasons: they are vegetarians because they want to minimize cruelty and death in the world. Good health is just a pleasant side-effect."
So, when an ethical vegetarian explains to me why it's wrong to have leather upholstery in my car, or even to drink most commercially-produced wines (because the fining agents used to clarify the wine are derived from animal products), and then they go and eat a slice of bread, that's just utter hypocrisy. If it is morally wrong to kill animals, then the production of bread is tantamount to genocide on a scale unparalleled in all of human history- more yeast are incinerated in a single hour at the baker's oven than the total number of people of all races put to death in all the concentration camps of WWII combined.
In fact, ethical vegetarians are inherently anti-Christian. The production of bread is discussed 361 times in the king James bible. It is practically a metaphor for the entire religion, inasmuch as Christ compares himself to bread, and promotes its ritualistic consumption to his disciples shortly before his execution.
So by their worldview, ethical vegetarians must denounce Christianity (as well as Judaism) as supporting the greatest and most widespread racial holocaust the world has ever known.
Given the present sociopolitical climate in the US, Christianity is very much in vogue right now, and weirdm scary people who denounce it are fit to be ostracised.
Is that really what you want? Do you want to murder baby Jesus? Because every time you refuse to kill and eat an animal, that's exactly what you are doing.
Down with ethical vegetarians.
Well, yes I do believe religion in all forms is for fuckying idiots. Religion is for the weak. And most people are indeed weak. Universal FAIL.
And yes, I do believe that life is life, and in order to live you must kill other life. Blah blah blah.
I agree that any people who rub their fuckying faces in other people's shi are annoying motherfukers. That goes for religious people, aggressive/critical vegetarians/vegans, nationalists, hicks, racists etc.
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04-07-2012, 05:57 PM
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04-07-2012, 06:00 PM
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I am assuming Hustler went to the Daniel Tosh stand up in Houston.
So one must come to the conclusion you did not know that he did stand up, and only had a TV show.
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