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Old 06-03-2015, 11:00 AM   #22421
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Excited? hahaha who gets excited about a friggen hybrid?
I mean even the insight isn't something a sane person would buy as a "toy".
It's a lighter, older, uglier, mini-fridge. The thing that makes the prii appealing is that they fit more crap in em than a subaru wagon, WHILE getting 50mpg, WHILE having every gizmo under the sun stuffed into em, AND still chug to 200k with no problems.
A local shop to me put a small turbo on an insight and actually significantly increased its efficiency. It also put down about 150whp which would be a freaking riot in a car that light. I seriously considered buying one and putting a small turbo on it with some wheels and suspension and then just using it as a super commuter that was still fun.
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Old 06-03-2015, 11:14 AM   #22422
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I can tell you from exp that what he says actually works. Not a theory. I've done it.

I dunno the explicit details/ins-outs but I think this is how it works:

when you pulse you're using lots of battery juice, and not as much gas as you would if you were to slowly ramp up accelaration because then it'd use the engine for a longer period of time. when you glide you coast while the battery regens, it doesnt kill speed much cause toyota is smart and actually put a range in there where it will regenerate without decelarating much if at all.

you're essentially recovering as much energy as possible, then re-using as much of that energy as possible to conserve other energy.'

......or something
I can see this working in a Hybrid.
But I don't believe you'd see positive results in a normal car.
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Old 06-03-2015, 11:17 AM   #22423
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A local shop to me put a small turbo on an insight and actually significantly increased its efficiency. It also put down about 150whp which would be a freaking riot in a car that light.



Do want.
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Old 06-03-2015, 11:26 AM   #22424
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Old 06-03-2015, 11:30 AM   #22425
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Oh yeah, heard about that. Pretty sure someone did that on a prius too, and got some absurd 90+mpg

It would spin a lot. I used to steal my bro's Insight when he was out of town and go "chirp second" on it, and it did it really good. Those were the days


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Old 06-03-2015, 11:51 AM   #22426
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Shaikh's new marketing strategy seems...questionable.

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The book I'm about 300 pages into writing is extensively referenced, with many engineering links as I've peppered through various threads. It also requests the reader keep an open mind. I'm bringing in things I've learned in other disciplines. I challenge a lot of assumptions and not just in suspension design. I expect about 70% of conventional enthusiasts won't appreciate it, but those who do will really love what they can get from applying the principles. Some, like those who has tested our products against many others, will see it as a validation of what we know to be true. Not because of confirmation bias or Koolaid, but because you can't lie to Mother Nature.

The OEMs generally know how to make a fantastic, fast, smooth sports car or sedan. We're smart if we take note of what they do that works and then apply the Hippocratic oath to our customized suspensions - to do no harm. I'm thinking of the tires and our bodies. Both must be kept happy to have the maximum grip and smoothest ride. Given ideally-tuned damping and all other essential variables held constant, a setup without Flat Ride won't grip as well or ride as well as one that has it. This isn't conjecture, it's science - it's what engineers more experienced than any of us know and why OEMs use it.

Until your (insert vehicle, in our case a Miata) has a better power:weight ratio and utilizes signficantly more aero than a Corvette I see no reason to deviate from a formula that makes excellent sense and keeps the tires in better contact with the road, plus reduces vibrations demonstrated to disturb the driver (thus reducing their performance).

What I'm saying is only new to some people . A lot of engineers & racers in other fields are well aware of these concepts. Putting it all together for our applications seems to be novel, from what I'm not seeing or hearing about other product. An efficient, compact, Flat Compression blow-off feature for a monotube shock appears to be novel.

I think the changes are more likely to come at the level of a new company taking whichever of these principles they want (and others they discover on their own) and applying them to their existing product lines. They will get objectively better results in every area, as we're demonstrating. Someone may actually do a fully quantitative analysis. That might even be me once I have the vehicles to do those tests on.

Science says his suspension setup is best! Don't believe him? Too bad! Science!
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Old 06-03-2015, 11:57 AM   #22427
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Science says his suspension setup is best! Don't believe him? Too bad! Science!
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but time for a bro-down between emilio and shaikh
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Our main fileserver just went down due to some sort of corruption. We are debating if we should post this to our intranet site or not:



Trying to figure out if I want to get fired today
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I just sat in a Carbon Fiber chair. It wasn't very fast, but It had four legged drive.
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I had some bad hiccups 30 minutes ago. I picked a hot pepper out of my garden, it about stopped my heart but I no longer have hiccups.

Worked for me, it may work for you.

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Old 06-11-2015, 07:41 PM   #22431
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Stock ECUs make more power than Megasquirt.

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Old 06-11-2015, 07:55 PM   #22432
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That thread is going downhill fast.
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Duh, stock ECU with the restriction of the MAF will ALWAYS make more power. ECool > everything.
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even though I shouldn't
I feel so dirty now
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Old 06-11-2015, 07:59 PM   #22435
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Not me. Tuners did the jobs. They weren't anywhere near me. I have neither the time nor the patience. I prefer to drive them.
/facepalm

I like the guy calling out Andrew for making an inferior product simply because it does not pass emissions
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Between the ND, FatPeopleHate being banned from reddit, and now this, this is a good week for popcorn!
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That thread is going downhill fast.


You mean it's getting awesome?
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So like srs question... what do ARFs look like on a wideband with this eCool **** dumping fuel into the manifold? Is it as bad as I think it is?
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So like srs question... what do ARFs look like on a wideband with this eCool **** dumping fuel into the manifold? Is it as bad as I think it is?
A nice lean spike followed by some epic gross rich-ness. Suspected to be the cause of the guy that windowed his block with his FFS setup yesterday.


Bonus points for trying to tell us that the 5th injector is for COOLING the intake charge. Sure. Seems legit.
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just visit my build thread, I got every single iteration of boost covered
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