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Old 10-14-2015, 03:09 PM   #23541
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WTH was being installed for the last hour?
The windows 10 installer
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WTH was being installed for the last hour?
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speaking of windows 10, bueno?

Ive resisted thus far
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:05 PM   #23544
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speaking of windows 10, bueno?

Ive resisted thus far
This +1

I'm JUST now about to goto win7, way late to the party

I hear win10 tin = free to those on Win7... Truth?
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People whose opinions I don't trust seem to like it, but I've personally not played with it.

I finally got annoyed enough to manually removed the stupid "Get Windows 10!" nagware utility thing from my W8.1 work computer today. I got tired of it crashing every time I unlocked the machine
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I hear win10 tin = free to those on Win7... Truth?
From what I understand its free for a year for people running 7 and 8.1 and then only if you make NO hardware changes to the system. No idea what happens after a year but the doom & gloomers on the intertubes are making dire predictions.
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I'm holding out for Win9.


But seriously...


Upgrading from the C64 to DOS made sense for a lot of reasons.

Upgrading from DOS to Windows 3.1 made sense when there were applications I wanted to run which were only available on Windows 3.1.

Upgrading from 3.1 to 95 made sense when there were applications I wanted to run which were only available on 95.

Upgrading from 95 to 98 made sense when USB peripherals and hard drives larger than 2.1 GB started becoming mainstream.

Upgrading from 98 to XP made sense when there were applications and peripherals I wanted to use which were only available on XP, in addition to native support for peer networking (a vast improvement from Novell NetWare), USB 2.0, Bluetooth, and other wholesome goodness.

Upgrading from XP to 7 made sense when 64 bit processors and silly amounts of RAM started becoming mainstream.

I'm still waiting for a reason to upgrade to either 8.1 or 10.
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I'm holding out for Win9.


But seriously...


Upgrading from the C64 to DOS made sense for a lot of reasons.

Upgrading from DOS to Windows 3.1 made sense when there were applications I wanted to run which were only available on Windows 3.1.

Upgrading from 3.1 to 95 made sense when there were applications I wanted to run which were only available on 95.

Upgrading from 95 to 98 made sense when USB peripherals and hard drives larger than 2.1 GB started becoming mainstream.

Upgrading from 98 to XP made sense when there were applications and peripherals I wanted to use which were only available on XP, in addition to native support for peer networking (a vast improvement from Novell NetWare), USB 2.0, Bluetooth, and other wholesome goodness.

Upgrading from XP to 7 made sense when 64 bit processors and silly amounts of RAM started becoming mainstream.

Upgrading from 7 to 8.1 made sense when touchscreens and lack of keyboards becomes mainstream

I'm still waiting for a reason to upgrade to either 11 or 13.
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W8.1 work computer today.
These exist?!?!?!?!?
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These exist?!?!?!?!?
It was not my choice, my boss made me do it.

He is also the one who put Win10 on his work laptop, a 3rd Generation Lenovo X1 Carbon. Touchscreen interface on the ultraportable 14" seems to make it work well. The Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter/Miracast/Intel WiDi/whatever the **** its called that is baked into Win10 seems to be fairly robust, unlike the previous iterations in Win7/8.1. Memory management and processor use in W10 is said to scale better on "marginal" hardware, even better than W7, but I'll believe that when I see it.

Our full scale deployment of Win 10/Office 365 comes Q1 2016, assuming our testing goes well. I'm neck deep in infrastructure projects right now so I've not had time to really play with the desktop OS stuff.
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Win10 is better than 8 or 8.1, but I don't see anything that makes it notably better than Win7.

The hardware change thing is really only if you change the motherboard or CPU -- peripheral changes are fine. If you have your original Win7 key, you can submit it to MS support and get a Win10 key in return, so that would solve that problem.
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Our full scale deployment of Win 10/Office 365 comes Q1 2016, assuming our testing goes well. I'm neck deep in infrastructure projects right now so I've not had time to really play with the desktop OS stuff.
Your dept. is very on top of things. I doubt my company will upgrade early 2016

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DirectX is the only thing for me at this point
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my comp upgraded to win7 just this year lolz
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I'm holding out for Win9.


But seriously...


Upgrading from the C64 to DOS made sense for a lot of reasons.

Upgrading from DOS to Windows 3.1 made sense when there were applications I wanted to run which were only available on Windows 3.1.

(lots of pointless upgrades deleted)
For general-purpose computing I went from DOS 5.0 to Linux 0.98 and never looked back. Just say No to Microsoft.

Mid-2000s I switched to a mac for my general-purpose stuff, because it runs BSD.

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For general-purpose computing I went from DOS 5.0 to Linux 0.98 and never looked back. Just say No to Microsoft.

Mid-2000s I switched to a mac for my general-purpose stuff, because it runs BSD.

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I played with Debian and Slackware a good deal in college, before GUIs were the norm. Got reasonably proficient with it (I already knew System V Unix from the "big" computers), but these days I've forgotten most of it.

For me, it's all about application support. To do my job, I need AutoCAD, WireCAD, BlackMagic, Evertz Maestro, Caprica, and a number of other applications which are available only on Windows (and, in some cases, MacOS.) I don't much care for Macs (though I do have one on my desk at work now), and while I'm aware that I could run all this stuff inside a VM under Linux, that seems kind of silly.

I'm not a Windows fanboy, but it happens to be the tool which is most efficient for my needs. And, to be honest, it's gotten pretty darn good since XP. Used to be that the max uptime you ever saw on a Windows machine was a couple of days. Now, although I put my home and office machines to sleep every night, I really can't remember the last time I actually rebooted either of them.
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Your dept. is very on top of things. I doubt my company will upgrade early 2016
We only have like 300 users so it's not so insane. This push is actually more due to moving away from Novell and over to Microsoft Active Directory/Domain. Thats right, I'm still in Novell hell.

The internal designation for the conversion is 'Project Visine' because we plan to get the red out

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my comp upgraded to win7 just this year lolz
Thats because you work in healthcare
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For me, it's all about application support. To do my job, I need AutoCAD, WireCAD, BlackMagic, Evertz Maestro, Caprica, and a number of other applications which are available only on Windows (and, in some cases, MacOS.) I don't much care for Macs (though I do have one on my desk at work now), and while I'm aware that I could run all this stuff inside a VM under Linux, that seems kind of silly.
One advantage to embedded software development, I suppose. All I need to get my job done is a web browser, email reader, and a bunch of xterms for logging into the build servers.

I first switched to a mac in 2004 when I wanted a laptop that ran Unix and didn't blow chunks. Linux was nearly useless on laptops at the time, but MacOS X is basically NeXTStep, and NeXTStep is BSD running on Mach with a fancy GUI on top. It was stable, understood all the laptop-specific hardware (Linux's main fault at the time) and offered a native bash shell and the other parts of a unix environment.

Unfortunately, recently Apple has been moving further and further away from that happy place. Snow Leopard was about the best it got, Mountain Lion and now Mavericks are significantly less stable. Admittedly some of that is probably due to my employer having gotten large enough that we now have an IT department who loads the macs down with crapware, but I notice some of that instability even on my own personal iMac.

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Thats because you work in healthcare
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I was actually quite surprised we're not still using windows 95
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I was actually quite surprised we're not still using windows 95
If you work in healthcare, I'm guessing your IT dept was scrambling to upgrade/replace the last of the XP machines because MS was ending support which meant they were no longer going to be compliant with the HIPAA security guidelines.
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yep.
it was the fastest migration that ever happened lol
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