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Old 06-23-2016, 09:47 PM   #25961
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:15 PM   #25962
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Are you set where you are for the time being? They aren't going to kick you out or anything? Then you've got a golden opportunity. Use those 6-8 weeks wisely.

If they (meaning your direct boss) knows you are leaving, but still sees you putting in effort and being diligent, that goes a long way towards looking good in his/her eyes. That's a contact you can keep for many years when you need that glowing recommendation for another job someplace. One lesson I learned the hard way as a contract worker was not only to not burn bridges, but to maintain the ones you had in the past. It just might be the "networking" you need down the road.
Pretty much. My boss knows I plan to leave and still wants me to help him interview possible new hires. The CIO said he didn't care if we hired someone before I leave, if I want to stay they'll keep me. I should leave in pretty good standing with at least 3 or 4 excellent references.

My boss and I talked about this yesterday after one interview. The guy was qualified, and was personable enough...but he couldn't shut up about how much he wanted to leave his current job and how much he dislikes his current boss. Maybe he really has a sucky job and a terrible boss, but maybe he's just a malcontent. I'm not sure we will be willing to take the chance. If he'd just kept his mouth shut, he'd probably be in the final 2 or 3 candidates.
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:34 PM   #25963
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That's a huge no-no in interviews. You NEVER badmouth anyone, not even the interviewer's worst enemy.
I have had literally dozens of interviews. I've heard all the "trick" questions, and can tailor my answers depending on how the interview is going.
BTW, unless I was desperate, I would never work for anyone that asked, "what is your greatest weakness?" and the like. I had one guy ask me, "why do you want to work here?".

I answered "money.". The guy laughed and I was hired on the spot. Three years later they laid off the entire department, including my boss, but I was kept on. 6 months later, I left.
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:19 PM   #25964
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^HA! I told the old boss at my last job the same thing.

"What motivates you to be a Technical Writer?"

"I'm good at it and it provides me the money necessary to enjoy my hobbies when I'm not at work."
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:41 PM   #25965
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I do a LOT of interviewing/hiring. Agreed: badmouthing current/prev employer is basically a sure-thing way to fail an interview with us.
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To be honest, I cannot think of many projects that I am solely responsible for because I work as part of a pretty small but very close knit team. We have a lot of widely varied projects that play on our different strengths and weaknesses. Though I understand that "Helped plan and deploy X" "Worked as part of a team to X" "Received training and regularly supported X" does not look as good as "Managed deployment of X" and etc. If you are going to put that stuff on a resume you better be prepared to back it up.
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Old 06-24-2016, 12:32 AM   #25967
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I think I was accidentally interviewed for a job tonight. The #2 spot at WGN and WGNA, specifically.

I'm conflicted.
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Old 06-24-2016, 07:49 AM   #25968
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I think I was accidentally interviewed for a job tonight. The #2 spot at WGN and WGNA, specifically.

I'm conflicted.
Just make sure when you get to the negotiating salary part that you tell them as part of the job you need a garage that allows you to work in it. A NA/NB of your choosing, along with a MSPNPPro and MKTurbo setup.
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Old 06-24-2016, 09:24 AM   #25969
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Just make sure when you get to the negotiating salary part that you tell them as part of the job you need a garage that allows you to work in it. A NA/NB of your choosing, along with a MSPNPPro and MKTurbo setup.
Well, in the Chicago market, presuming I lived in the burbs, I could easily buy a house with cash and the garage thing would be taken care of.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I'd want to live downtown, given that WGN is well outside the loop, just a few miles east of ORD. A reverse-commute by car wouldn't be horrible, but it wouldn't be my first preference.

Chicago peeps: what does the trail / sidewalk situation look like in terms of jogging / biking from either the loop or river north (Marina Towers area) out to North Center / Avondale?
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he already has a nice NB2 that he needs to boost asap
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To be honest, I cannot think of many projects that I am solely responsible for because I work as part of a pretty small but very close knit team. We have a lot of widely varied projects that play on our different strengths and weaknesses. Though I understand that "Helped plan and deploy X" "Worked as part of a team to X" "Received training and regularly supported X" does not look as good as "Managed deployment of X" and etc. If you are going to put that stuff on a resume you better be prepared to back it up.
Your last sentence pretty much sums up my view. Underpromise and overdeliver. I only listed four projects/accomplishments on my resume. I've been "involved" in way more things than that, but not stuff that I can talk about in a way that's useful to a future employer. The four projects that I did list on my resume? I can talk about every component of the project in detail; I can describe decisions that I made and what factors I considered in making them; I can evaluate the outcome honestly and talk about what I did right and what I learned for the next project.
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I think it really comes down to what kind of company you're interviewing for, and the interviewer(s) too.

Even within our company, I've talked with various directors/vp's and their preferences are all over the place: one was telling me how they really want someone to "sell" themselves, to have confidence, to really come across as someone that knows how good they are, and their own potential. Another director was telling me how it absolutely annoys him when people think they know everything, how humility goes a long way, and how no one really is a subject matter expert in any given field - it's more important to have the desire to learn/grow/improve than think you've mastered something.

I dunno. I try to be somewhere in between, but tend to agree with you guys: I'd rather be underwhelmed by a resume then get seriously impressed during an interview
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I've now interviewed about 40+ people over the past few years and been in several interviews my self. Corporate culture of the company comes down to how you play the interview. When I was in the DoD contracting world being completely proper in the interview is what you had to do. All the companies in that world want you dressed perfectly and not to say anything bad at all. At my private sector job it is the complete opposite. We drop "*****" in the interview just to see how the candidates react, because if it is negatively we cross them out. If someone talks bad about previous employers we try to get more details on try to get down to why they were unhappy. Sometimes they have valid reason, sometimes they don't.

Saying all that I am in the IT industry which I believe is a bit of an outlier for most of sectors.
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Well, in the Chicago market, presuming I lived in the burbs, I could easily buy a house with cash and the garage thing would be taken care of.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I'd want to live downtown, given that WGN is well outside the loop, just a few miles east of ORD. A reverse-commute by car wouldn't be horrible, but it wouldn't be my first preference.

Chicago peeps: what does the trail / sidewalk situation look like in terms of jogging / biking from either the loop or river north (Marina Towers area) out to North Center / Avondale?
I don't see any dangerous areas that jump out at me crime wise. I felt quite safe in North Center and the loop is pretty safe as well. It is a pretty far bike ride though and a friend of mine lost his fiance in a bike accident a number of years back. I will ask my city friends. Bikeways ? Chicago Complete Streets

I would talk up Chicago as a place to live but you have already lived in New York. Chicago is great, but nothing you haven't seen before. However, it is my understanding that it is cleaner and we are far more friendly.
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I mean, what were you reasonably expecting as an answer?

I would expect something super generic like "a subnet mask helps the TCP protocol determine if a host is on the local or a remote subnet" but no way would I expect anyone to sit down and start breaking out the binary.
I would expect them to know this answer. The IP layer is not difficult. Subnet masks aren't difficult. If you do not know how to set up an interface on a server, or diagnose problems with the setup of an interface on a server, you have no business in IT. I mean, "is the networking set up properly" is right after "is it plugged in" and "is the network cable plugged in at both ends" in terms of basic fundamental questions that must be answered.

It's not like they're being asked to describe BGP ...
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It is a pretty far bike ride though and a friend of mine lost his fiance in a bike accident a number of years back.
It's only about 7 miles from the Marina Towers. To put that in perspective, I walk about 5-6 miles each way to and from work presently, depending upon which route I take. Though of course about half of that it through either central park or one of the riverfront greenways.

Not sure how badly it'd suck in winter, though. We don't get extremely harsh winters in NYC as compared to the lakes area. The station is not far from the Addison stop on the Brown line.

I'd be open to the concept of living in the 'burbs, provided it doesn't suck. Not my first preference from a lifestyle perspective, but it might be the more practical option in this case.


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I would talk up Chicago as a place to live but you have already lived in New York. Chicago is great, but nothing you haven't seen before. However, it is my understanding that it is cleaner and we are far more friendly.
You may be nice, but you guys have shitty pizza. And your street grid is three-dimensional, which is weird.

I've worked at Prudential Tower and 2 Illinois Center in the past, doing short-term contract stuff. So I know the Loop pretty well, and River North a little, but everything else might as well be Pyongyang for all I know.
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I would expect them to know this answer. The IP layer is not difficult. Subnet masks aren't difficult.
Subnet masks are weird. Or at least, slightly mysterious.

I know what patterns of twos and fives and zeroes need to be typed into the subnet mask field in order to achieve various partitionings of a class c, and I understand the fundamental concept behind the technique, but for some reason it still has a sort of voodoo-ish element about it.



This is also a sub net:




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