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Old 11-04-2013, 08:55 PM   #18521
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Nordstrom. You can get perfect fitting shirts.
Wait for the yearly men's sale, raid and profit.
Perfect! ...as long as they are willing to custom embroider my company logo on each shirt.

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I know this will sound very MT.net but learn to sew and google "pinch and pin". Or find a solid tailor near you. Or someone (wo)manly enough and confident enough to do it for you.
Yup, this is the next step. Unfortunately, the shirts I was referring to are polo shirts so they don't lend themselves to tailoring. You pick your size and you like it. They are actually good quality and very comfortable. If I could wear it untucked, I'd be fine. It's just not long enough to stay tucked in.

I have ordered some long sleeve button downs for this winter, however, and if the fit isn't satisfactory, I am absolutely taking them to the Vietnamese seamstresses here in town. They do awesome work at very reasonable prices.

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I'm going to take a stab at this myself some day soon. I'm sick of getting poofy shirts that fit my monkey arms.
If I weren't the new guy, I'd just say screw it and wear whatever non-logoed shirt I want. Plenty of other employees do. But not for me, not yet.
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:02 PM   #18522
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WTF?

Here is the latest offer I received over craigslist for my roll bar:
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Hello fellow Miata owner! I have 2 Mazdaspeed Miata 2004-2005 Turbos. 1 track 1 street!

My friend has this exact same bar on his car, kinda heavy but okay. will you consider $300 us postal service money order and $200 in Us Mail Forever Stamps to ship in 1 or 2 boxes Parcel post (insured) tracking number? Any extra stamps you keep since they are "FOREVER STAMPS" MY ZIP IS 92708
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Well hell, that started out pretty sketchy, but then he mentioned that they are Forever Stamps...
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I could really, really use a how-to thread. Like holy ****, I can't dress myself to save my own life.
Easy, take a female friend with good taste shopping with you. They love it because it's essentially like playing with a life size Ken doll for them. Alternatively, read through a few issue of GQ, tone it down a bit depending upon where you live, and then try to find approximately the same thing that doesn't cost $2000.00. I will say that I wish I had realized earlier that even if I don't particularly care what I wear, other people do form first impressions based upon wardrobe and in that case, perception is reality.
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I need someone to dress me. I seriously have no clue wtf I'm doing.
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Well hell, that started out pretty sketchy, but then he mentioned that they are Forever Stamps...
It seems that it may even be a real person, who may in fact own a Miata! Still not shipping to California for $90 in Forever Stamps...
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It'll just get weird, man. Besides, most of the people on this board are involved in the following industries:
  • ITing
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  • Wrenching

None of those fields lend themselves to the sort of... je ne sais quoi... that one would expect from such a thread.
I definitely fit into that pool, and...

I would like to be able to dress fashionably. Except that I literally have no idea how. You might as well say to me "Make a Croquembouche." Yes, I live in an area in which I'm sure that all of the ingredients are readily available, and I can certainly type "How to make a Croquembouche" into Google, but it's not the same. I know where my talents lie, and creating exotic French pastries is outside of my envelope.

What I really want is something like Ikea for clothing. I want to be presented with five different pictures of men who are of about the same size, body shape and complexion as me, and say "I like this one and this one," and then the computer spits out a bill of materials with SKU numbers that I take to the register, and they give me all the things in the picture along with simplified "how to wear this" instructions for any of the non-obvious ****, and a sheet of paper that I can take with me to the barber the next time I go that tells him exactly what to do to my head to make it look exactly like the guy in the picture, without me needing to have a clue what's going on.

Sweedish meatballs with lingonberry sauce would be an added bonus.

But in short, I really want to bypass all of the intermediate steps (researching fashion, visiting many different stores, selecting items one at a time) and just go directly from "I agree that this picture looks nice" straight to "Now I own all of these things".

Can somebody please invent this? I'll even provide seed money.








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I just fell going 20mph on my bike because ASU can't keep their ******* roads maintained. It hurts so bad. My knee and shoulder is fucked. My hands somehow got all fucked up on the top so at least I can type still. FML.
I feel your pain, dude. Been there several times.

Break any bones?
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:49 PM   #18528
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I definitely fit into that pool, and...

What I really want is something like Ikea for clothing. I want to be presented with five different pictures of men who are of about the same size, body shape and complexion as me, and say "I like this one and this one," and then the computer spits out a bill of materials with SKU numbers that I take to the register, and they give me all the things in the picture along with simplified "how to wear this" instructions for any of the non-obvious ****, and a sheet of paper that I can take with me to the barber the next time I go that tells him exactly what to do to my head to make it look exactly like the guy in the picture, without me needing to have a clue what's going on.

Sweedish meatballs with lingonberry sauce would be an added bonus.

But in short, I really want to bypass all of the intermediate steps (researching fashion, visiting many different stores, selecting items one at a time) and just go directly from "I agree that this picture looks nice" straight to "Now I own all of these things".
They have such a thing, or at least close. Here's a site with a few options: Men Hate Buying Clothes But These Sites Make Clothes Shopping Look Good | DailyTekk

Of course, I wear a camouflage uniform 90%+ of the time so I'm no expert.
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On a related note, I've been making these for friends and family for a while and recently started selling them.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:45 PM   #18530
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One of them looks like an *** rocket. What's the other one?
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:58 PM   #18531
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I feel your pain, dude. Been there several times.

Break any bones?
No broken bones thankfully. My knee lost quite a bit of skin, and now is scabbing over which really sucks since if I move it the scab starts to tear because it's contracted so much. My shouldler I don't even know. My shirt protected the skin, but it was more of a direct hit so I won't know the damage until tomorrow probably. My hands are just trashed though, should be fun writing the few hundred lines of code for my java class.

I've only fallen a few times since I started riding here, it's embarrassing as hell lol. Whatever.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:26 PM   #18532
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I've only fallen a few times since I started riding here, it's embarrassing as hell lol. Whatever.
Yeah, my luck kinda sucks in this regard. I tend to ride hard & fast on the street, and while I hardly ever go down (once every few years, on average) when I do it's always a big one. I can't remember a crash in recent history in which I haven't broken at last one bone. Right clavicle, long bones in left foot, two toes on right foot, a couple of fingers, a number of ribs on multiple occasions, etc.

My big fear at this point is that the next one is going to put me down in front of a bus, and that's going to be the end, Or worse, I'll survive but with permanent injuries (eg: paralysis, loss of a limb, brain damage, etc.)

I wish I could say that I'm careful to make sure that this doesn't happen, but I'll be honest- I find it difficult to not take excessive risks when riding on the street in heavy traffic, lane-splitting between taxis, trucks and busses, etc. I'm nearer to 40 than 30 at this point, but I still ride like I did when I was 14.
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Old 11-05-2013, 12:20 AM   #18533
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I always go as fast as possible everywhere. That's what got me this time. I'm on a road bike and have fairly skinny tires, and the front one dipped into a crack I couldn't really see and before I even knew what was happening I was on the ground. I probably would have been fine, but I use foot straps so I wasn't able to roll and was forced into a direct hit and just slid on one side.

I guess like you said I'm just happy there wasn't a car or bus next to me to fall under. That would be and mess.
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Old 11-05-2013, 01:52 AM   #18534
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Easy, take a female friend with good taste shopping with you. They love it because it's essentially like playing with a life size Ken doll for them. Alternatively, read through a few issue of GQ, tone it down a bit depending upon where you live, and then try to find approximately the same thing that doesn't cost $2000.00. I will say that I wish I had realized earlier that even if I don't particularly care what I wear, other people do form first impressions based upon wardrobe and in that case, perception is reality.
We don't have a mall here. So shopping is done online (how I do it), or spending $$$ at shops downtown.
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Apparently, I need to get my wife to sign on and create a thread for you gentlemen. You should see how sophisticated and stylish I look today. As the poster above mentioned, she shops - I retain veto rights - and it's like playing dress up for her.

Thursday, I will be wearing a tuxedo with black and white leather wingtips.

For button-down long-sleeved dress shirts at reasonable prices, Express for Men is a staple in my wardrobe. As a bonus, many come in bolder colors so you are not stuck always wearing white and shades of blue.

Macy's carries a few brands (like INC) that come in "fitted" or "athletic" fits. All of those dispense with the pirate-shirt puffery. Macy's has a rewards-based credit card. The more you use it, the more they send you coupons. Combine the coupons with the sales and you can really stretch your dollar.


Their Alfani brand of dress shoes is a good starter. Slightly upscale from there, you have Steve Madden and Kenneth Cole.

For "frasual" shoes (in between casual and formal), you can get away with Target. Something more bold like a grey suede mid-top boot with jeans in a dark wash:

por ejemplo

For jeans, you really do get a better fit if you spend a bit more money. I'm fairly frugal on most of my clothes shopping, but I will spend money on jeans. I only own 3-4 pairs, given my sub-tropical climate. For me, Lucky brand fits well. The darker the wash, the more formal.

Said another way, lighter washes are for daytime and running errands or grabbing a casual lunch. Darker washes are for going out to a decent dinner or a lounge. Slacks are for a nice dinner.

Pants should be fitted but not "skinny." Boot leg cuts should be used sparingly and subtly and reserved for casual jeans. No bell bottoms. If in doubt, go with a straight leg or mild taper.


I'll try to come up with more concrete examples and links later. For now, I will leave you with one of my favorite daily accessories:

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They have such a thing, or at least close. Here's a site with a few options: Men Hate Buying Clothes But These Sites Make Clothes Shopping Look Good | DailyTekk
So I click on the first couple of links there, and by the very first page I'm already in over my head:




Seriously? The whole reason I'm here is because I lack a fluent style vocabulary.

How the hell do I know how the person who created this site defines the word "Classic." Does that mean 1950s Madison Ave, or 1850s Baker St?

What's the difference between "Relaxed" and "Casual." To me, those are synonyms.

What does "Creative" mean? Hell, I'm creative, but only with a soldering iron and a keyboard. Will I be able to tell the difference between "Creative" and "Preppy"? And, for that matter, does "Preppy" still mean the same thing that it did 20 years ago when I was in high-school and we used it as a derogatory term to insult kids who came to school wearing a crested sweater and hush-puppies?

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When in doubt (and in the absence of any personal preference), go with "Classic."
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Joe, that site sucks. So much registration and login for lameness.

Here's part of your issue with those words on that page: You don't know what your style is. Hawaiian shirt tucked into dad jeans with combat boots is not captured well in those words. I'd say you're somewhere between Casual - Relaxed - Functional, but none of the ways they intend you to be.

Lets see if I can sum up those words for a guy who is creative with a soldering iron...

Creative:
Discordant. large mix of patterns and colors. stuff you wouldn't see a republican wear. short "in style" lifetime. requires goofy haircuts.

Preppy:
Ivy league dude. Lots of sweaters and boat shoes. Dressing up to play tennis. Blue blazers with khakis like doctors wear.

Casual:
Button downs untucked. Tennis shoes that are brown or black or some combination of earth tones, but not running shoes. Slim-but-not-tight jeans. Interesting socks.

Relaxed:
Same as Casual but everything is a half size bigger and shoes eschew lacing. Maybe you could swap in a well-fitting colorful tshirt (no prints). Shoes can have contrasting sole rubber, but are still non-gym tennis shoes.

Classic:
Style that is not trend-based. Medium width ties, lapels, etc. (not too wide, not too skinny). Not quite as slim as modern fits but still well-fitting. Conservative clothes your grandpa, father, and sons could all wear to their 39th birthday party in any era. Think slightly more boring than Mad Men.

Functional:
Who the hell knows on this one. I suspect it means low effort basic style. Tucked in shirts, chinos, hush puppies, plain and neutral socks. Probably is the casual version of Classic for most people.
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Words and labels in fashion to me are stupid. It's all about personal style, in what you think looks good on you. I always ignore the labels like "classic" and "relaxed" because they really don't mind ****. I go with what looks best to my eyes. I've worn plenty of stuff that was supposed to be "the style" that was either bought for me as a gift, or I bought myself to try to be "in style". But I never felt comfortable in that stuff. I always find myself back at what I feel comfortable in. My uniform is pretty generic. A good quality, well fitted black v neck t-shirt, dark wash boot cut jeans, or something with the a wider leg to disguise my gigantic, unproportional feet, and nice pair of boots. That is what typically what I feel comfortable in. Though lately I've been replacing the jeans with more darker color pants.
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And those are just basic terms. Try a place like Brooks Brothers and it's even more confusing. I google different fitments and still get lost. I have not bought anything from BB before, but from browsing many sites, it's so confusing trying to find a deal online, yet I don't want to spend $300 on one pair of pants in a local store.
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