throwing rocks at my car
07-11-2009, 09:08 AM
#81
You know I used to be a punk kid....nothing snapped it out of me like being thrown face first onto the road in handcuffs after a short spree of radio snatching.
I had my radio stolen a while back in the Integra, and it really opened my eyes (and reminded me what a ******** I had been). It wasn't the monetary value (they left 5 times the worth in tools etc so I know they were dumb kids), but just the disrespect that got to me. My wife was pregnant at the time, and this happened the first year we were in our own home.
These kids need to be woken up! Do them a favor. Don't kill them, but give them a serious reality check so they learn what it means to disrespect a man by vandalizing his property.
The best way to do this is to stop them dead in their ******* tracks. Don't pussyfoot around, don't ask first, don't let them convince themselves for a motherfucking second that you aren't serious and real. Walk right the **** up next time you see them in the yard and slam one of the ******* straight onto the ground. I mean grab him by the shirt in the center of the chest, pick him up about two feet and thrown him down. You have to imagine you are throwing him over a fence to get this to work, but it will and you can do it. He will hit the ground a new man, and his buddies will understand what's happening when you start shouting: "I know one of you ****** flattened my tire... and if I ever see you close to my property again I won't hesitate to punch your nose out the back of your empty bitch-*** skull."
I had my radio stolen a while back in the Integra, and it really opened my eyes (and reminded me what a ******** I had been). It wasn't the monetary value (they left 5 times the worth in tools etc so I know they were dumb kids), but just the disrespect that got to me. My wife was pregnant at the time, and this happened the first year we were in our own home.
These kids need to be woken up! Do them a favor. Don't kill them, but give them a serious reality check so they learn what it means to disrespect a man by vandalizing his property.
The best way to do this is to stop them dead in their ******* tracks. Don't pussyfoot around, don't ask first, don't let them convince themselves for a motherfucking second that you aren't serious and real. Walk right the **** up next time you see them in the yard and slam one of the ******* straight onto the ground. I mean grab him by the shirt in the center of the chest, pick him up about two feet and thrown him down. You have to imagine you are throwing him over a fence to get this to work, but it will and you can do it. He will hit the ground a new man, and his buddies will understand what's happening when you start shouting: "I know one of you ****** flattened my tire... and if I ever see you close to my property again I won't hesitate to punch your nose out the back of your empty bitch-*** skull."
Though since you've now alerted the police on your thoughts, you need to plan carefully and leave no trace. But must also be something hardcore. Could always cover your face, throw a bag over his head and take him for a long ride somewhere (dont use ur car), throw a beating he'll remember and leave him in the middle of nowhere. Oh and destroy his cell, tear up any money/cards he might have as well. And then be home in time to see him get back while sipping a beer only to ask...daaaaaamn who'd you **** off?
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07-11-2009, 09:18 AM
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87poopra was hammered last night when he posted that. lol
Just another side note.
The officer that came out to take my "report" which never got reported, told me several times, "I'll go talk to them if you want, I have no problem with that." He was about 27-28 years old, a fresh rookie. So after answering all my questions and giving me the "you're allowed to do this.... not this...." I finally say, yeah, would you mind going and talking to the kid's parents? He looks at me and says, "Well if I go talk to them it might just provoke another reaction from the kids and I might be back out here in a day or two and you'll have 4 flat tires."
So basically what he's telling me is these punks can do whatever they want and he won't even bother trying to scare them from doing it. Threw me off that he kept offering to knock on their door and then when I took him up on it he denied.
My city is bogus.
Just another side note.
The officer that came out to take my "report" which never got reported, told me several times, "I'll go talk to them if you want, I have no problem with that." He was about 27-28 years old, a fresh rookie. So after answering all my questions and giving me the "you're allowed to do this.... not this...." I finally say, yeah, would you mind going and talking to the kid's parents? He looks at me and says, "Well if I go talk to them it might just provoke another reaction from the kids and I might be back out here in a day or two and you'll have 4 flat tires."
So basically what he's telling me is these punks can do whatever they want and he won't even bother trying to scare them from doing it. Threw me off that he kept offering to knock on their door and then when I took him up on it he denied.
My city is bogus.
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07-11-2009, 09:24 AM
#83
Couldnt agree with this more, I wasn't so much stealing as I was just doing random stupid ****, but same idea. And I learned in a similar fashion, but was handled without cops.
Though since you've now alerted the police on your thoughts, you need to plan carefully and leave no trace. But must also be something hardcore. Could always cover your face, throw a bag over his head and take him for a long ride somewhere (dont use ur car), throw a beating he'll remember and leave him in the middle of nowhere. Oh and destroy his cell, tear up any money/cards he might have as well. And then be home in time to see him get back while sipping a beer only to ask...daaaaaamn who'd you **** off?
Though since you've now alerted the police on your thoughts, you need to plan carefully and leave no trace. But must also be something hardcore. Could always cover your face, throw a bag over his head and take him for a long ride somewhere (dont use ur car), throw a beating he'll remember and leave him in the middle of nowhere. Oh and destroy his cell, tear up any money/cards he might have as well. And then be home in time to see him get back while sipping a beer only to ask...daaaaaamn who'd you **** off?
Is it illegal to put something up on Craigslist w/ a brand new email address asking for someone under the age of 18 to beat these kids up? Would I have Johnny Law tapping on my door the second I click "submit"?
EDIT: I've seen first-hand what the "you have no proof" will get you. EVERYTHING. My bro got jumped by his g/f (a big woman... very big) and her brother one morning IN HIS OWN HOUSE. She found some girl's name in his call log and jumped to conclusions and busted him over the head with an ash tray. He woke up (drunk) and was trying to push her out of the way so he could come to my house (we were neighbors at the time) and she kept holding him back. My bro is 6' about 160lbs. She is 5'8" about 215. Well, her brother wakes up and hears the ruckus, thinks he's beating his sister up, comes down stairs and together they beat the **** out of him. Had to get reconstructive surgery on his face, 2 metal plates and like 20-something stitches. Cops show up at my house after my bro has calmed down and basically say, "we smell alcohol and its your word against theirs... better luck next time."
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07-11-2009, 10:47 AM
#84
dude they will get whats coming to them.
And to all the people that are getting pissed about using the word *****, or ------, get over it. Its just a stereotype. nobody made you click and read this or to post because you had a lil sand in your vagina. So... get over it and then go **** yourself
And to all the people that are getting pissed about using the word *****, or ------, get over it. Its just a stereotype. nobody made you click and read this or to post because you had a lil sand in your vagina. So... get over it and then go **** yourself
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07-11-2009, 11:20 AM
#86
Again, a youngster without a ******* clue. If you read my previous post it has nothing to do with toughness. If you had an issue with it back then, you had no options. Racism was institutionalized, so there was no complaint to be filed and heard, and if you took matters into your own hands you might be found hanging from a tree. This is not **** I read about, I was there and lived it, so when you ******* make light of the use of the word, regardless of your color, I think you are being ignorant to the history of it. I particularly hate to here black people use it. It’s derived from a period that needs to stay in the past. So how about you STFU...K
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07-11-2009, 12:03 PM
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You know, I can see msdynor's point to an extent being that he lived and experienced it and all.
However, I do lean towards the side that times have drastically changed since then and although it shouldn't be forgotten it surely shouldnt be brought up every time the word is used.
Fact is today, people are/have to be much more concerned with the manner in the way that or any term is used. EVERYONE knows it can be used in many different ways. When an "Artist" uses it in his album which goes platnium and is played in every club in the US...its understood that its not meant in a racial manner. Equally, when I joke with my jewish friend and say "***** Pleeeeease" it's known that there is no racism involved.
And let's be honest, everyone in every race/color/creed does this. Spanish comedians saying Spic, White southern comedians saying redneck, and so on. Same goes for the female rights stuff. Ho, ****, bitch, etc...all depending in context.
If someone in a white hood says "------", then I KNOW the manner in which its used, and by all means is unacceptable. Obviously there are others that are less drastic but equally racist, and again unacceptable...the key is to not be stuck on the WORD and focus on the INTENT.
These terms are used to describe the bottom of the barrel in any group of people...Let's see it for what it is, there's the low of the low in every class...and when other people use those terms to group those people, we can either agree with it because its true...or make a stink about it because its offensive. I'm not a greaseball, or a guniea, so dont take offense when I hear the word because I KNOW what its used to describe, and in all honesty...I agree and call them the same!
Now can we get back to giving the OP ideas on how to bust these "punks" who are messing with him? As for my previous suggestion, I still stand by it, I dont think its too far fetched at all, and nothing is illegal unless you get caught. If you cant get identified, and dont kill the kid, then chances are you'll be just fine
However, I do lean towards the side that times have drastically changed since then and although it shouldn't be forgotten it surely shouldnt be brought up every time the word is used.
Fact is today, people are/have to be much more concerned with the manner in the way that or any term is used. EVERYONE knows it can be used in many different ways. When an "Artist" uses it in his album which goes platnium and is played in every club in the US...its understood that its not meant in a racial manner. Equally, when I joke with my jewish friend and say "***** Pleeeeease" it's known that there is no racism involved.
And let's be honest, everyone in every race/color/creed does this. Spanish comedians saying Spic, White southern comedians saying redneck, and so on. Same goes for the female rights stuff. Ho, ****, bitch, etc...all depending in context.
If someone in a white hood says "------", then I KNOW the manner in which its used, and by all means is unacceptable. Obviously there are others that are less drastic but equally racist, and again unacceptable...the key is to not be stuck on the WORD and focus on the INTENT.
These terms are used to describe the bottom of the barrel in any group of people...Let's see it for what it is, there's the low of the low in every class...and when other people use those terms to group those people, we can either agree with it because its true...or make a stink about it because its offensive. I'm not a greaseball, or a guniea, so dont take offense when I hear the word because I KNOW what its used to describe, and in all honesty...I agree and call them the same!
Now can we get back to giving the OP ideas on how to bust these "punks" who are messing with him? As for my previous suggestion, I still stand by it, I dont think its too far fetched at all, and nothing is illegal unless you get caught. If you cant get identified, and dont kill the kid, then chances are you'll be just fine
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07-11-2009, 12:20 PM
#89
Actually it is not a stereotype, apparently you don't know the meaning of the word stereotype, nor do you understand the origin and history of the word and how it is used, and it’s impact on our society. And like I told others, just because someone tells you something is wrong or has a different view/opinion, it does not mean they are pissed off. I grew up in the south, in the 60’s, if hearing ------ pissed me off that much, I’d probably be dead from stress by now. For much of my first 10-15 years on this earth, white people could call me ------ and there wasn’t anything I/we could do about it. Can’t do it now, unless it’s on the internet without getting your *** whooped.
I don't agree that it's just a word...just like I don't think "holocaust" is just a word. When a word signifies something so strong in history, it can't just be thrown about. Although "slavery" or "racism" would more accurate depict what happened to black people in our country, both words have broader uses and don't describe the history quite like "holocaust" describes what happened to the Jews. The word "------" does a pretty damn good job carrying that significance, and well as keeping the discrimination alive. To me this makes the word even worse than in the case of the Jews. I'm unfamiliar with any term that would remind a Jewish person of what happened as well as making them feel like a continuing victim. There may be one out there, and if so I'm sure we wouldn't use it as freely (even in comedy) as we do the word "------."
I can't even say the word (although I can type it). I'm not being snooty, prude, uppity or self-righteous about it...I just can't push that word out of my mouth knowing what it signifies to so many of my own fellow Americans. Not in jest, nor in anger. I don't think that anyone should be able to really say that word. And if you can you're probably one of those close mind individuals that thinks the Holocaust wasn't a big deal.
I'm mixed on putting an "a" at the end of the word. It does technically make it another word, and it's usage seems to be less based on the type of person as much as it is on their location. By this I mean that here in Houston there are areas where the urban culture sees it fit to use this word. EVERYONE in these certain areas does it, black or white, wiggers or not. "Wiggers"...there's another one, it just doesn't stop.
This may be the worst part of saying it's okay to add an "a" (or a "w"). You are keeping the root word alive.
I remember reading the article about burying the "N" word and thinking it had to be some kind of stunt, and was stupid. The more I thought about it the more sense it made, and I thought: "Well it's about damn time."
I'm really not sorry if I've pissed anyone off, but this is how I feel. I won't personally ever know what it feels like to feel the effect the usage of this word has, but I imagine, being a perpetual student of history and culture, as well as being socially conscious, that I wouldn't appreciate hearing it.
I'm not saying no one should use it or any of it's variants. I'm saying you should personally consider whether it should be removed from your vocabulary. You may come to a different conclusion that I, which is fine. But you must honestly access what the word really means at least once in your life.
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07-11-2009, 01:16 PM
#91
I've never had anything to get over, and yes, I will beat your *** if you were standing in front of me with that ****, I said nothing about we. I don't use the word period, and it is not used in my house...which irritates my father when he visits. In most cases, if it is used as some of you like to discribe as "OK" I respectfully ask the person not to use it around me. In cases with idiots like you, I gererally offer an *** whooping.
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07-11-2009, 05:20 PM
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i still say we do the jack and cement blocks thing. because you know that lil ****** doesnt have a jack that goes as high as mine!! and if he just tries to throw it in gear and get the car off the blocks... you know that car will be a teeter totter for months.
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07-12-2009, 12:43 PM
#94
I've never had anything to get over, and yes, I will beat your *** if you were standing in front of me with that ****, I said nothing about we. I don't use the word period, and it is not used in my house...which irritates my father when he visits. In most cases, if it is used as some of you like to discribe as "OK" I respectfully ask the person not to use it around me. In cases with idiots like you, I gererally offer an *** whooping.
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07-12-2009, 03:18 PM
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Police Blotter: July 8, 2009
Originally Posted by Police Blotter: July 8, 2009
Jul 8, 2009 - 1:11:27 PM
PLANET RD 6/22 Regency Lake Apartments. Property reported stolen from an unlocked silver 1991 Chevrolet Caprice. Vehicle was parked at the complainant’s apartment. . .
. . . JEFFERSON DAVIS HWY 6/25 Victims were attempting to back a large vehicle onto their lot and were blocking traffic as they did. The suspect, angered by this, got out of his vehicle and exposed his ***** to the victims. He then returned to his vehicle and drove off.
PLANET RD 6/22 Regency Lake Apartments. Property reported stolen from an unlocked silver 1991 Chevrolet Caprice. Vehicle was parked at the complainant’s apartment. . .
. . . JEFFERSON DAVIS HWY 6/25 Victims were attempting to back a large vehicle onto their lot and were blocking traffic as they did. The suspect, angered by this, got out of his vehicle and exposed his ***** to the victims. He then returned to his vehicle and drove off.
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07-13-2009, 02:51 PM
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project84,
You need to be smarter, not tougher. Do legal things only. Get his first and last name and sign him up for a few newsletters. Start with Bi-Curious and work your way into full-on gay bondage ***-torture. "Friends of Gays and Lesbians" or something like that would be good. How about "How do I talk to my parents about being gay?" Something on being in the closet and/or coming out.
Request more info on embarrassing products. Request free samples of creams and ointments. Request info on living with herpes. Set up a dummy email account using his first and last name if you need to.
If he has facebook or is one of those types, steal his picture to start a new one with a different middle initial and write a bunch of **** about being bi-curious and mix a lot of fact with fiction to make it believable. But don't make it obviously over the top or no one will buy it. Mugshots and online arrest records might be available to help you with a picture, birthdate, and legal name from when he got busted with the pot.
Request membership with his formal name and address in politically subversive groups that are being watched by the government. That will make it very difficult for him to ever join the military or be employed by local or state agencies in his lifetime. The lightweights would be like The John Birch Society, The Black Panthers, The American Communist Party, etc. There are much more interesting ones, serious revolutionary ones, just don't get yourself associated with them by spending too much time perusing their sites.
Then top it off with "coping with heroin addiction, and "how to talk to my parents about my meth problem." This is the sinister one for immediate reaction from the parents.
But most importantly keep it believable. He is not going out for gender reassignment surgery. His parents won't buy that. And, after all, his parents are the real target for believing this stuff when it shows up in the mail. You want him to go be constantly scrutinized by them. You want them to keep him on a tighter leash and not be allowed to "hang out" outside in the neighborhood if at all possible. How about committed to rehab? Sounds nice, doesn't it? You could drive those thoughts. How about the parents running his little dickwad friends off. Also sounds good, huh?
Congrats on your new hobby, screwing with dickwad.
And further up the road if it gets tedious and boring, give the crafty and evil side of miataturbo.net a chance at him. If you got the ball rolling nicely and wanted some help (Yes, you should handle it yourself initially) then you could post his information here for the seriously depraved amongst us to have at him (I'm sure Joe Perez has a creative dark streak that needs some nourishment).
Happy hunting.
You need to be smarter, not tougher. Do legal things only. Get his first and last name and sign him up for a few newsletters. Start with Bi-Curious and work your way into full-on gay bondage ***-torture. "Friends of Gays and Lesbians" or something like that would be good. How about "How do I talk to my parents about being gay?" Something on being in the closet and/or coming out.
Request more info on embarrassing products. Request free samples of creams and ointments. Request info on living with herpes. Set up a dummy email account using his first and last name if you need to.
If he has facebook or is one of those types, steal his picture to start a new one with a different middle initial and write a bunch of **** about being bi-curious and mix a lot of fact with fiction to make it believable. But don't make it obviously over the top or no one will buy it. Mugshots and online arrest records might be available to help you with a picture, birthdate, and legal name from when he got busted with the pot.
Request membership with his formal name and address in politically subversive groups that are being watched by the government. That will make it very difficult for him to ever join the military or be employed by local or state agencies in his lifetime. The lightweights would be like The John Birch Society, The Black Panthers, The American Communist Party, etc. There are much more interesting ones, serious revolutionary ones, just don't get yourself associated with them by spending too much time perusing their sites.
Then top it off with "coping with heroin addiction, and "how to talk to my parents about my meth problem." This is the sinister one for immediate reaction from the parents.
But most importantly keep it believable. He is not going out for gender reassignment surgery. His parents won't buy that. And, after all, his parents are the real target for believing this stuff when it shows up in the mail. You want him to go be constantly scrutinized by them. You want them to keep him on a tighter leash and not be allowed to "hang out" outside in the neighborhood if at all possible. How about committed to rehab? Sounds nice, doesn't it? You could drive those thoughts. How about the parents running his little dickwad friends off. Also sounds good, huh?
Congrats on your new hobby, screwing with dickwad.
And further up the road if it gets tedious and boring, give the crafty and evil side of miataturbo.net a chance at him. If you got the ball rolling nicely and wanted some help (Yes, you should handle it yourself initially) then you could post his information here for the seriously depraved amongst us to have at him (I'm sure Joe Perez has a creative dark streak that needs some nourishment).
Happy hunting.
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07-13-2009, 04:14 PM
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I think i'm just going to keep it simple. I may just pay a visit at 3am w/ a sharp object.
Or better yet... stay out of it totally and just pay a minor to go ape **** on this kid. I asked and no one replied, is it legal to put up a craigslist ad asking for someone under 18 willing to thrash this kid for money? Or is that like, assisted assault?
I came home from fishing yesterday and my g/f had locked me out... so while I'm standing out front for 3 minutes waiting on her the kid came outside and was all friendly. It went like this:
Kid, "Hey, catch anything?"
Me: look at him and didn't respond.
Kid, "Where'd you go fishing?"
Me: look at him again, stare at him for about 20 seconds, he starts looking away frantically.
Kid, "Do you...."
Me, "why the **** were you throwing rocks at my car. Just tell me that."
Kid, "It was my friend. His name is JB, well, his real name is Greg."
Me, "Let me catch one of you wiggers by my car again.... you're on video now."
I walked in. Two days ago I spent about 5 minutes making a fake video-camera mounted to a piece of cardboard and placed it in my window in front of the shades. Because of the screen, you can't make out what it is very well, and it looks DAMN GOOD. It's just a small cap off a spray can of penetrating oil that I fitted to the cardboard. It looks just like a security camera mounted on a piece of presswood.
Hope it's a deterant, I close on my house the 25th. THANK GOD.
Or better yet... stay out of it totally and just pay a minor to go ape **** on this kid. I asked and no one replied, is it legal to put up a craigslist ad asking for someone under 18 willing to thrash this kid for money? Or is that like, assisted assault?
I came home from fishing yesterday and my g/f had locked me out... so while I'm standing out front for 3 minutes waiting on her the kid came outside and was all friendly. It went like this:
Kid, "Hey, catch anything?"
Me: look at him and didn't respond.
Kid, "Where'd you go fishing?"
Me: look at him again, stare at him for about 20 seconds, he starts looking away frantically.
Kid, "Do you...."
Me, "why the **** were you throwing rocks at my car. Just tell me that."
Kid, "It was my friend. His name is JB, well, his real name is Greg."
Me, "Let me catch one of you wiggers by my car again.... you're on video now."
I walked in. Two days ago I spent about 5 minutes making a fake video-camera mounted to a piece of cardboard and placed it in my window in front of the shades. Because of the screen, you can't make out what it is very well, and it looks DAMN GOOD. It's just a small cap off a spray can of penetrating oil that I fitted to the cardboard. It looks just like a security camera mounted on a piece of presswood.
Hope it's a deterant, I close on my house the 25th. THANK GOD.
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07-13-2009, 04:53 PM
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Hmmm. You're screwing up with that line of thinking. Yes you can go to jail for soliciting criminal activity on craigslist. Are you hearing yourself?
You are making it worse, not better. My way is legal and fun. Yours, illegal and irrational.
Please stay out of it emotionally and think logically.
Case in point: I have scumbag teenagers next door. The whole town's scumbag teenagers come to visit and hang out all night. They break things and steal things, but not my things. Why? I identified the leader, their alpha dog, and figured out he was into cars. I saw him working under the hood one day and went over and expressed genuine interest in what he was doing. I was helpful and assisted him. I spoke to him respectfully and I think is surprised him. I offered to help more if he ever needed. Seven years have passed and I have a few times a year done something nice for him and/or expressed an interest in his latest project. I also give a couple of the underlings some spending money to help rake leaves and such. They steal anything that the neighbors leave lying around, but actually let me know if somebody strange is around my house and tell people to leave my things alone.
You don't want an enemy, even if they are ********* and deserve it. You will never be able to rest if you antagonize each other overtly. There will always be retribution. It is a never ending spiral. Unless you stop it.
That neighbor kid was reaching out. That probably was out of a sense of trying to make it right. Bend that to your favor. Use the opportunity to make him a force for your benefit. Next time you see him and he's alone talk to him - as an equal (suck it up and work it like a master manipulator). Make him believe you. Say "I'm sorry I blew up at you the other day. I believe you when you say it was the other guy (don't say kid). I am just all stressed out right now and the last thing I needed was that being done to my car." Then turn the conversation to everyone's favorite topic, themselves. Earn his trust and respect by asking about his well being. "Did the cops **** you up the other night when they arrested you? Man that was screwed up (act like you believe he was done wrong). They aren't still going to press charges on you are they?"
You will be amazed how one guy on your side can steer the others away from you as a target and on to some other focus. Work this situation with your mind or keep fixing the results of vandalism. Or keep thinking of ways to end up in prison. Your call, buddy.
Dr. Six
You are making it worse, not better. My way is legal and fun. Yours, illegal and irrational.
Please stay out of it emotionally and think logically.
Case in point: I have scumbag teenagers next door. The whole town's scumbag teenagers come to visit and hang out all night. They break things and steal things, but not my things. Why? I identified the leader, their alpha dog, and figured out he was into cars. I saw him working under the hood one day and went over and expressed genuine interest in what he was doing. I was helpful and assisted him. I spoke to him respectfully and I think is surprised him. I offered to help more if he ever needed. Seven years have passed and I have a few times a year done something nice for him and/or expressed an interest in his latest project. I also give a couple of the underlings some spending money to help rake leaves and such. They steal anything that the neighbors leave lying around, but actually let me know if somebody strange is around my house and tell people to leave my things alone.
You don't want an enemy, even if they are ********* and deserve it. You will never be able to rest if you antagonize each other overtly. There will always be retribution. It is a never ending spiral. Unless you stop it.
That neighbor kid was reaching out. That probably was out of a sense of trying to make it right. Bend that to your favor. Use the opportunity to make him a force for your benefit. Next time you see him and he's alone talk to him - as an equal (suck it up and work it like a master manipulator). Make him believe you. Say "I'm sorry I blew up at you the other day. I believe you when you say it was the other guy (don't say kid). I am just all stressed out right now and the last thing I needed was that being done to my car." Then turn the conversation to everyone's favorite topic, themselves. Earn his trust and respect by asking about his well being. "Did the cops **** you up the other night when they arrested you? Man that was screwed up (act like you believe he was done wrong). They aren't still going to press charges on you are they?"
You will be amazed how one guy on your side can steer the others away from you as a target and on to some other focus. Work this situation with your mind or keep fixing the results of vandalism. Or keep thinking of ways to end up in prison. Your call, buddy.
Dr. Six
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