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Old 03-09-2017, 06:19 AM
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Question DIYPNP '96 1.8 - Intermittently running lean

Apologies if the wrong section, this is likely a more general issue than MS, but thought i'd start with the Log and see where it takes me!

So, over the past few weeks I have started having an intermittent running issue, with increasing frequency. On my ~30min commute it'll go super lean (AFR ~18-19) and run like a bag of spanners for a bit. If I can, I stop as soon as I can, but often I can't on my commute (sat in traffic in London).

I started this log when it was happening, at approx 30 seconds in I was sat at traffic lights at idle so it's a little clearer: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ocbr0zfjb7...Issue.msl?dl=0

Any thoughts on a logical place to start? Fuel Pump, or misfire caused by dodgy coil pack?

Thanks for any input in advance!

Car Spec: '95 1.8, DIYPNP MTX-L, MS2, T28, Injectors, EBC etc etc

I turboed the car Mid-2014 (RR tuned at the time) and it's been running great ever since, have not had to give it much attention aside from usual servicing. Recently fitted a Metallic Sports Cat and it now sails though the UK MOT Emissions checks with no issues. Cleaned Air filter, and fitted new HT Leads and Fuel Filter recently for MOT.
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Do you have a data log of it idling at the correct AFR to compare it to, along with a copy of your tune?
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I would suspect a heat soaking air temp sensor if this typically happens from sitting in traffic. But Matt is right, we definitely need a "good" log to compare.
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Fair point guys, I'll do another log on the way home tonight.

I've not had this problem before and have had the car on the road for over 2 years! For info, my IAT is mounted directly in the end tank on my FMIC.
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When I left work this evening it was running rough as soon as I started it. Paused by the side of the road and gave all the leads around the ingition/injections a good prod and it seemed to clear up idle normally. Took a brief log sat idling before I took off:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0dd9yytsgq...lIdle.msl?dl=0

Once I got home I did the same (So a bit warmer): https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xi49696eq...TUC9kuIoa?dl=0

It feels like a misfire, so will try a second Coil Pack I have sat in the garage. It didn't feel like it changed much when I disconnected Cyl 1 injector (but by this point I'm not sure if I was imagining it), so i'll take a look at the Connector. As a side, new Spark Plugs are in the post so i'll gap and slap new ones in while i'm at it.

Oh yes, my Current Tune: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dcez4931e4...01.42.msq?dl=0 (Critism welcome!)
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A misfire can definitely cause a false lean reading and if the coil has a problem, it will be more likely when warmed up - definitely try the coil at this point.
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So...after all that it seems the Coilpack has sorted it. Have done 40 odd miles on the replacement pack with no issues.

Thanks for responses, I probably went over board with the logging, I had a little panic seeing it go lean on the WB.
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