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Old 07-01-2016, 09:21 PM   #1
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If you haven't read the Bushing Megathread, go do that first. Then come back and talk to us.

This thread will cover all of the different bushing options that SADFab offers, along with pricing for the more common ones. In general we can set you up with whatever you want, but I will list the most common packages and pricing. You will also be able to see this information at www.SADFab.com in the coming weeks. All prices include shipping To order email us at info@sadfab.com

Prices can also be seen at the link on our website: www.sadfab.com#bushingprices

Polyurethane Bushing Bronze Bearing Conversion Kit

So far this is our favorite option. It is perfect for people who want better performance out of their already installed poly bushings, but don't want to go all out and run delrin everywhere. This kit will replace all the metal sleeves that come with your poly kit with higher strength sleeves and . SAE863 bearings.

It contains the following:
- Bronze bearings and sleeves for all bushing locations on the car

Note: The FUCA bushings must be drilled out, at some point we may offer an exchange program but as of now you must ship your FUCA bushings to us to have them drilled out. He will then ship them back to you with the whole retrofit kit.

PRICE DROP: We have been hard at working making this popular option as affordable as possible. And we are proud to announce that we have found a way to make this significantly cheaper than before. Our price goal is ~$200 and will be available in the coming weeks.

Price: ~$200

11/19/16 update: Install tips video

Basic Delrin Kit

This is a bare bones delrin kit. Nothing fancy, you just want moar stiff.

It contains the following:
- Delrin Bushings for the following locations:
- FLCA Forward Bushing
- FUCA-I bushings
- RLCA-I Forward Bushing
- RLCA-O bushings
- RUCA-I bushings
- Grease fittings for all locations

Price: $420

*If upgrading from poly bushings you can reuse your bushings in these locations, but SADFab recommends trying to sell your poly kit all together. You will end up better off that way. Price does not include the poly bushings

The Full Package

This is the kit that Sean and I run. It is delrin everywhere that works, with poly and bronze bearings in the spots you can't and a spherical in the RUCA-O location.

It contains the following:
- Delrin Bushings for the following locations:
- FLCA Forward Bushing
- FUCA-I bushings
- RLCA-I Forward Bushing
- RLCA-O bushings
- RUCA-I bushings
- Poly bushings and bronze bearings for the following locations (see Bushing Megathread for details)*:
- FLCA Aft bushing
- RLCA Aft bushing
- RUCA-O spherical conversion kit
- Grease fittings for all locations

*If upgrading from poly bushings you can reuse your bushings in these locations, but SADFab recommends trying to sell your poly kit all together. You will end up better off that way. Price includes the poly bushings

Price: $610

The NASA Full Package

This is the same as the Full Package, but uses a poly bushing and bronze bearing in the RUCA-O because of the NASA small bore rules about metal bearings.

It contains the following:
- Delrin Bushings for the following locations:
- FLCA Forward Bushing
- FUCA-I bushings
- RLCA-I Forward Bushing
- RLCA-O bushings
- RUCA-I bushings
- Poly bushings and bronze bearings for the following locations (see Bushing Megathread for details)*:
- FLCA Aft bushing
- RLCA Aft bushing
- RUCA-O bushing
- Grease fittings for all locations

*If upgrading from poly bushings you can reuse your bushings in these locations, but SADFab recommends trying to sell your poly kit all together. You will end up better off that way. Price includes the poly bushings

Price: $570

The "Because Racecar"

This is the all out, nothing wasted, perfect bushing setup. Sphericals everywhere they are needed, and delrin everywhere else. This is still in development, so pricing will be announced later, but if you are interested in it contact us.

It contains the following:
- Delrin Bushings for the following locations:
- FUCA-I bushings
- RLCA-O bushings
- RUCA-I bushings
- Spherical conversion sleeves in the following locations:
- FLCA
- RLCA-I
- RUCA-O
- Grease fittings for all locations

Price: TBA

Offset Lower Control Arm Bushing

A common solution to gaining more camber in the front of a Miata is to install an offset upper bushing. While this does increase camber, it also decreases bump travel when using wider than 8" wheels. We using a delrin offset bushing in the forward lower control arm position combined with a poly bushing in the aft lower control arm position. This is a good alternative to ELBJ and is a “no-point” mod for NASA

Until now the only way to get a bushing like this was to have it custom made. Not anymore, SADFab is offering offset forward lower control arm bushings to get all the camber you want.

Price: $60

Note: All delrin bushings require drilling out with a 7/8" drill after pressing into control arms.

11/19/16 Update: How to ream your delrin bushings video.

Notes:
-All prices include shipping, and most of our packages can be adjusted to fit your needs just shoot us an email at info@sadfab.com and we will make something work.

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So will I need to drill out anything? And if so what size drill bit?
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Very nice. I'll be hitting you up soon for poly bronze kit
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Aww crum
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I would just like to point out that it appears this entire post was written by Aidan.

Let that sink in for a moment.
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It was a joint effort.

Offset LCA bushing for all of the camber. $60 shipped!
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Ok so I have read "the thread" but my limited suspension IQ is not quite getting it. I have a set of ES Poly waiting to be installed on my 99. I am currently using it as a second DD and weekend toy car. No plans of AutoX or tracking yet. I have upgraded the suspension to AFCO coilovers, FM rails and Butterfly brace and BF double hoop roll bar. The bushing is the next in line to be tackled but then this caught my attention.........

So this "copper" bearings will help the silicone grease stay better than the supplied bushings? How about just using the "copper anti-seize compound" instead of the supplied silicone grease?
What is the recommended interval of reapplying the grease with this copper bearings?

I am contemplating of just using the FM/MS upgraded rubber bushings instead but if this makes the Poly's perform better then this a cheaper option for me as I already have them.

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What the bronze does is effectively replace the grease. (We still recommend grease to keep contaminates out). The bronze bearing goes around a replacement sleeve and is oil impregnated. Because the poly is so sticky the bronze bearing sticks to it, but can rotate freely around the bushing.

Here is an awesome drawing I made.



The bronze bearing allows the sleeve to freely rotate inside the poly bushing. And can't be displaced the way that grease can.
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^indeed. This is a HUGE improvement to the function of the bushings. I used the copper anti seize stuff and I haven't had a good experience with it. My bushings stick bigtime.

Will be doing bronze inserts or full delrin over the winter.
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So this "copper" bearings will help the silicone grease stay better than the supplied bushings? How about just using the "copper anti-seize compound" instead of the supplied silicone grease?
What is the recommended interval of reapplying the grease with this copper bearings?
The bronze bearings dont help lube stay put. They are "the lube". As aidan mentioned, you should still grease them keep things from rusting and keep debris out.

bbundy can tell you more about using anti-seize compound. That just gets pushed out to, and is only slightly better than the silicone stuff, as after multiple applications some of the copper flecks remain.

The poly retro kit includes grease zerks for every location. I dont see the need to grease them more than once a year.
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Is ES Hyperlube silicone based?
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I believe so.
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How is the strength of these copper bearing compared to the standard ones included in the kit?


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Sir they are bronze, not copper. Also, there's not much bronze to it, as the bronze is only acting as a bearing. There's still a very strong sleeve in the center.
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Standard what in what kit?
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There are not bearings included in the normal kit. Just a sleeze and a bushing. We create a stronger center sleeve and provide you with bronze bearings to go between the sleeve and the bushing.

See the picture.
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I got some things in the mail over the weekend. Just waiting for the rest of my bronze inserts.


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How do you adjust the eccentric, wrench flats? Or do you just put it to max and leave it?
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Install where ever you want, usually max negative. Then use the Mazda cam adjusters.
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The eccentrics control the alignment. Do it in an alignment rack
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