Adventures in PTE/TTE
#281
So yeah a 195 TD soft is the TTE tire.
Edit: The softs are definitely C91. Just ordered a set to play with. Miata Challenge cheater tires..
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#288
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at 80 treadwear, it should only be a 6pt tire under the 2015 PT rules. Thus, factoring in the -10 for size, you get 4 points back overall. Holy crap!
The question is...for PTE, can it stay fast for an entire race? Secondly, just how much slower is a 195 TD compared to a 205 R7. I may just have to test a set. Oh wait, my car is in pieces right now. Oops
The question is...for PTE, can it stay fast for an entire race? Secondly, just how much slower is a 195 TD compared to a 205 R7. I may just have to test a set. Oh wait, my car is in pieces right now. Oops
#289
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at 80 treadwear, it should only be a 6pt tire under the 2015 PT rules. Thus, factoring in the -10 for size, you get 4 points back overall. Holy crap!
The question is...for PTE, can it stay fast for an entire race? Secondly, just how much slower is a 195 TD compared to a 205 R7. I may just have to test a set. Oh wait, my car is in pieces right now. Oops
The question is...for PTE, can it stay fast for an entire race? Secondly, just how much slower is a 195 TD compared to a 205 R7. I may just have to test a set. Oh wait, my car is in pieces right now. Oops
#292
I was also looking at these tires since they showed up on Discount Tire. I looked on this website (Hankook Archives - Garys Motorsport Tyres) and it seems to imply that this the 195/55/15 comes in a Medium (C5) and Soft (C7) compound, but does not directly compare it to the "Super Soft" C9 compound. Where are we getting the info that this Soft 195/55/15 Z221 is actually the "Super Soft" C9 compound in the Z214? Hankooks website also says this 195/55/15 Soft is a C7 compound Competition Cars Tires - Hankook Ventus Series | Hankook Tire Global.
#293
195/55/15 TD softs just showed. They are C70. My durometer shows about 74a for the TD and 56a for the 225/45/15 R1R's (SuperMiata wets) that also just arrived.
Tread that will actually touch the ground on a 15x8 is around 185mm. About the same as the 205 Rival and 205 RC-1. They're tall of course so 4.77 Kia gear mandatory I would think.
Tread that will actually touch the ground on a 15x8 is around 185mm. About the same as the 205 Rival and 205 RC-1. They're tall of course so 4.77 Kia gear mandatory I would think.
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#294
195/55/15 TD softs just showed. They are C70. My durometer shows about 74a for the TD and 56a for the 225/45/15 R1R's (SuperMiata wets) that also just arrived.
Tread that will actually touch the ground on a 15x8 is around 185mm. About the same as the 205 Rival and 205 RC-1. They're tall of course so 4.77 Kia gear mandatory I would think.
Tread that will actually touch the ground on a 15x8 is around 185mm. About the same as the 205 Rival and 205 RC-1. They're tall of course so 4.77 Kia gear mandatory I would think.
Im running them in F this year, provided I can get moved for my new job and get the car back into one piece. Ill also run them on 15x8s with the 4.77 Kia gearset.
The points I get back from that free up some interesting options on an F dyno reclass, but my guess is that they will be hard pressed to go a 40 minute race under a 2460lb car. If I drop 3hp, I can drop that back to 2400lb which might be the hot ticket.
Id be really interested in seeing what a points based 1.6 car in PTE could do on them. At the 2182 base weight, assuming you could wring a 1.6 for every bit of its worth on a +0 points motor build, I think you could best the dyno reclasses Ive seen, but it will take A LOT of work to get there.
#297
race, wet race, practice, street tires
I am trying to get an idea of what tires I need for a TTE car that I will drive occasionally on the street. I was thinking that I need:
RACE: 1-2 sets Hankook 195 TD or Hoosier 205 SM7
PRACTICE: the older race set or Yoko A048?
STREET: the Yoko's or the tires I use for the wet?
RACE WET: (lowest priority) narrow tires to use on the street also? 14" on the stock daisy wheels?
So I am trying to get by with the least number of tires and least cost. I don't think that wet TT days are important enough to go with Hoosier wets.
Any suggestions on 3 or maybe 4 sets of tires to do all of the above?
(Searched for variations of practice, race, wet, tire)
RACE: 1-2 sets Hankook 195 TD or Hoosier 205 SM7
PRACTICE: the older race set or Yoko A048?
STREET: the Yoko's or the tires I use for the wet?
RACE WET: (lowest priority) narrow tires to use on the street also? 14" on the stock daisy wheels?
So I am trying to get by with the least number of tires and least cost. I don't think that wet TT days are important enough to go with Hoosier wets.
Any suggestions on 3 or maybe 4 sets of tires to do all of the above?
(Searched for variations of practice, race, wet, tire)
Last edited by HoustonNW; 02-20-2015 at 05:30 PM. Reason: added 14" wheel option
#298
I am trying to get an idea of what tires I need for a TTE car that I will drive occasionally on the street. I was thinking that I need:
RACE: 1-2 sets Hankook 195 TD or Hoosier 205 SM7
PRACTICE: the older race set or Yoko A048?
STREET: the Yoko's or the tires I use for the wet?
RACE WET: (lowest priority) narrow tires to use on the street also? 14" on the stock daisy wheels?
So I am trying to get by with the least number of tires and least cost. I don't think that wet TT days are important enough to go with Hoosier wets.
Any suggestions on 3 or maybe 4 sets of tires to do all of the above?
(Searched for variations of practice, race, wet, tire)
RACE: 1-2 sets Hankook 195 TD or Hoosier 205 SM7
PRACTICE: the older race set or Yoko A048?
STREET: the Yoko's or the tires I use for the wet?
RACE WET: (lowest priority) narrow tires to use on the street also? 14" on the stock daisy wheels?
So I am trying to get by with the least number of tires and least cost. I don't think that wet TT days are important enough to go with Hoosier wets.
Any suggestions on 3 or maybe 4 sets of tires to do all of the above?
(Searched for variations of practice, race, wet, tire)
4x 205 Star Spec practice/wets/street
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#300
Mounting the 195/55 TD softs up to evaluate tomorrow at ACS. DOT codes are 2212 and 3612 :( That's almost 3 years old for those of you that don't speak DOT. That explains the durometer reading. I don't expect these to perform as they should, given their age.
I sent an email to my contact at Hankook to see if all the US stock is this old or if there are some fresher ones I can purchase to evaluate.
Seeing as these have not been listed on US website for more than about a year, I'm guessing these were actually slow selling inventory originally shipped to another country and drug over here just recently.
I sent an email to my contact at Hankook to see if all the US stock is this old or if there are some fresher ones I can purchase to evaluate.
Seeing as these have not been listed on US website for more than about a year, I'm guessing these were actually slow selling inventory originally shipped to another country and drug over here just recently.
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