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Old 12-18-2014, 10:43 PM   #321
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Do you have a thick washer or two between the shock shaft shoulder and the ruber piece on the lower side of the top hat?
yes I have it just like the pic below but the two washers must have been big enough to slip over the shock shaft shoulder because now they are sitting on top of the bump stop. I'm pretty sure I had it so that they stopped at the shoulder and the black rubber bushing sat on top of that, two washers per corner just like the OP.

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Old 12-29-2014, 09:45 PM   #322
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Alright Gentlemen,I've got a few questions that I'd like to ask regarding building my own Bilstein set-up. I've read through this thread a couple times now and it is very easy to get overwhelmed with it all. I'm just looking to find the best way to get Bilsteins on the car and get rid of the **** Godspeed coils that the previous owner had.

I plan to try this set up on my 94 with the following parts. Please let me know if I should be going a different route (namely,NB Bilsteins and NB top hats) or if any of you guys see an issue that I don't.

Bilstein NA hd's
All Star sleeves
QA1 7'' 450 lb fronts
QA1 7'' 300 lb rears
NA top hats
36mm? Bumpstops

I'll be using the car for limited street use in the summer along with a handful of track days. Also shooting for a ride height of around 12.5 front 12.75 rear (Should that be attainable with these parts?)



Also if it matters I've got a solid 15/16'' racing beat front bar,stock rear bar and 15x8 6ul's with 225 45 15 rivals.


Thanks much! Sorry if this seems super-noobish but I am new to piecing together a suspension and to Miata's in general.
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:01 PM   #323
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That looks good at first glance.
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Great,thanks! I just wanted to try and verify that that should work.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:44 AM   #325
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I always thought you wanted to put NB shocks and the NB tophat on the NA car for the increased suspension travel.
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Old 12-30-2014, 09:12 AM   #326
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justin case, I would double check the spring length. I think you NA guys need 6" front and 7" rear (I could be wrong).

Check out and skim through the 85 page thread on miata.net for more info. Take it with a grain of salt though as there is some bad info in there too.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:07 PM   #327
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Is the extra travel using the nb parts a necessity?

Also is it possible to use nb hd's and top hats and get to 12.5" front 12.75 rear? I thought I had read somewhere that a few people had issues getting to that height because of the longer shock bodies of the nb Bilsteins.

I'll have to go check out the m.net thread this evening and see if I find an answer on the spring lengths.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:30 PM   #328
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I'm also interested in these things. I ended up with MSM bilteins and 7" springs front and rear. Though.. i do have big extended top hats.
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My NA has sevens all around and is low and can go lower. I had softer eights previously and was fine with the adjusters all the way down.
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All Star sleeves
These?

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My NA has sevens all around and is low and can go lower. I had softer eights previously and was fine with the adjusters all the way down.
I stand corrected.

Can't wait to install MSM bilstein's w/ hypercoil springs and try it out. Hopefully its a big step up from my worn out hard s suspension.
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You may want to read post #217 & 218 in this thread. Pay attention to the length.
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You may want to read post #217 & 218 in this thread. Pay attention to the length.
Thanks for the tip. Is there a 5" kit that includes the slotted top, or just a 5" sleeve part? Is the slotted top needed for Miata shocks?
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I stand corrected.

Can't wait to install MSM bilstein's w/ hypercoil springs and try it out. Hopefully its a big step up from my worn out hard s suspension.
Bilstein will revalve their shocks for about $65 apiece, I've been told.
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Bilstein will revalve their shocks for about $65 apiece, I've been told.
I bought very low mileage MSM bilstein's so just going to try out 550/350 on them and likely sell my hard s bilstein's. I'm in Canada so it's a hassle to get them sent to get revalved (not sure if I would want to get them revalved elsewhere) and shipping isn't cheaper either - maybe down the road.
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Thanks for the tip. Is there a 5" kit that includes the slotted top, or just a 5" sleeve part? Is the slotted top needed for Miata shocks?
Order the sleeve separate from the collar. Slotted top isn't needed. You may want isolators (some people don't, I did).

The rear sleeve length is shorter than the front (or can be). I think I pointed it out in my post.
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Order the sleeve separate from the collar. Slotted top isn't needed. You may want isolators (some people don't, I did).

The rear sleeve length is shorter than the front (or can be). I think I pointed it out in my post.
Yes, you mentioned having to cut down the rears.

Does Summit have isolators that would work? Sorry, I'm a bit of a n00b. Thanks!

ETA: also, as far as which Bilsteins, HD or Sport--what spring rate is the transition between "good for HD" and "good for Sport"?
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Bilstein will revalve their shocks for about $65 apiece, I've been told.
Hendricks also does revalving/rebuilding on Bilstein shocks. Last price I got was $90 to service & revalve. While I have not used him yet I've seen and driven on a set of MSM Bilsteins he did and the owner was happy.

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Yes, you mentioned having to cut down the rears.

Does Summit have isolators that would work? Sorry, I'm a bit of a n00b. Thanks!

ETA: also, as far as which Bilsteins, HD or Sport--what spring rate is the transition between "good for HD" and "good for Sport"?
Yes, I forget which ones I bought but you can match up the dimensions you'll need; http://www.summitracing.com/search?S...2%2B4294861660
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My NA has sevens all around and is low and can go lower. I had softer eights previously and was fine with the adjusters all the way down.

Awesome,good to know. Hopefully I can go ahead and collect the pieces soon.
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