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The RA-1s last longer when they are shaved to start. If you start off full tread, they actually tend to wear quicker somehow (heat management I guess). They are also at their sweet spot right when you can barely see the tread lines any more. Unfortunately they are discontinued, replaced by the R888, which I have no experience with.
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I also drive my tires to the event, so DOT is a requirement. If I wanted the ultimate, I would probably do Hoosier R6s or something equivalent, but I don't want to afford those either. The NT-01 is cheap for what you get, useable on the highway, and damn quick on the track.
And for every set I buy I get $80 off a track day with SpeedVentures, so that's a bonus.
And for every set I buy I get $80 off a track day with SpeedVentures, so that's a bonus.
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The RA-1s last longer when they are shaved to start. If you start off full tread, they actually tend to wear quicker somehow (heat management I guess). They are also at their sweet spot right when you can barely see the tread lines any more. Unfortunately they are discontinued, replaced by the R888, which I have no experience with.
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I'm with Ben, azenis are far from ideal for track days. I'd recommend the Hankook Ventus RS-2 (or RS-3 whenever they're available) if you don't want to spend the money on NT-01s. They will last longer and give you better performance than the azenis.
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The RA-1s last longer when they are shaved to start. If you start off full tread, they actually tend to wear quicker somehow (heat management I guess). They are also at their sweet spot right when you can barely see the tread lines any more. Unfortunately they are discontinued, replaced by the R888, which I have no experience with.
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#34
My Azenis were absolutely crap for Hallett.... couldn't find grip to save my life coming into turn 2. Hoosiers have been awesome, but have about used up their life. I don't want to spend that kind of monies again for a throw away luxury.
I will be looking into the NT-01 for sure. I will only have 12 miles to drive to the track so DOT is not a necessity, but I can't justify the Hoosiers again.
I will be looking into the NT-01 for sure. I will only have 12 miles to drive to the track so DOT is not a necessity, but I can't justify the Hoosiers again.
#35
For me the Azenis worked well for about 4 laps @ springmountian then they get hot and go to **** :( I guess a better explaination would be greasy. The RA-1's were great but discontinued. Have not tried the R888 yet so no comment. Currently running the NT-01 but have yet to do a track day on them. From what i understand Nitto is part of Toyo so the tire compounds are close to the R888 if not the same. Track Tires are that, for the track. Street tires are for the street so this does not leave much room in the middle. but hoosiers R6, R888 (old RA-1's), NT-01, Yoko A-048, Eagle G-19 are a few recommended tires, but anything less will be a disappointment.
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$140, but say they'll beat competitor's prices: Ratings, reviews and specifications for Nitto NT-01 tires
Search around a bit. DTD, 1010Tires, Vulcan tire, etc. The best price is going to be someone that is out of your state (no tax) but close enough that shipping isn't absurd.
$140, but say they'll beat competitor's prices: Ratings, reviews and specifications for Nitto NT-01 tires
Search around a bit. DTD, 1010Tires, Vulcan tire, etc. The best price is going to be someone that is out of your state (no tax) but close enough that shipping isn't absurd.
#40
FWIW, NT01's are equal to R6's in speed but last about twice as long. Which one is faster varies with the environment, fwd, awd, rwd, light/heavy, drivers style etc.
The NT01's in autcross like heat. On the track, they'll be fastest after one lap in warm conditions then settle down to .1~.2 slower than the first lap until you run out of gas. The R6's require a bit more heat, usually getting sligthly better as the laps pile on, up to a point.
Because the R6's are so much more expensive and cycle out faster, there is no point unless your car, setup and driving style really like them and you have the budget. A6's OTOH, are like 1.5~2 sec faster on a typical 1:30 course but they pretty much last one day no matter what the car.
I'm a dyed in the wool NT01 fan just because they don't have to be shaved, are consistent, last and are fast. The 225/45 on 15x9's is such a wonderful combo that I don't really have motivation to look further. I've driven R888's on other cars and smaller wheels but never done back to back comparisons against the NT01's with 225/45's on 15x9's.
Savington mentioned 4-6 days with R6's which I think is the absolute max from what I've seen. I'd predict more like 2-3 days for most guys. NT01's driving a full hour and a half per track a day barely last 4-6 days. The guys who only go out for like :30 a day will get tons of trackdays out of a set.
The NT01's in autcross like heat. On the track, they'll be fastest after one lap in warm conditions then settle down to .1~.2 slower than the first lap until you run out of gas. The R6's require a bit more heat, usually getting sligthly better as the laps pile on, up to a point.
Because the R6's are so much more expensive and cycle out faster, there is no point unless your car, setup and driving style really like them and you have the budget. A6's OTOH, are like 1.5~2 sec faster on a typical 1:30 course but they pretty much last one day no matter what the car.
I'm a dyed in the wool NT01 fan just because they don't have to be shaved, are consistent, last and are fast. The 225/45 on 15x9's is such a wonderful combo that I don't really have motivation to look further. I've driven R888's on other cars and smaller wheels but never done back to back comparisons against the NT01's with 225/45's on 15x9's.
Savington mentioned 4-6 days with R6's which I think is the absolute max from what I've seen. I'd predict more like 2-3 days for most guys. NT01's driving a full hour and a half per track a day barely last 4-6 days. The guys who only go out for like :30 a day will get tons of trackdays out of a set.
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