15x9 6UL - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


949Racing - Miata Accessories 949 Racing 20601 Canada Rd Suite A Lake Forest, CA 92630-8100

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-31-2008, 01:53 AM   #1
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,308
Total Cats: 1,326
Default 15x9 6UL

You guys are probably geting tired of me chasing you all over the interweb and advertising the same old tired *** wheels. So to keep the streak alive..

Most of you in the market for maximum grip hardware know about the 15x9 6UL in production and probably ordered yours already. In case you don't know, here's the rundown.

Scheduled ship date is early April, 2008, taking orders now

* 15x9 +36, 6.3" backside setting
* 4x100
* Target weight is 14.3 but CAD model shows 14.0 currently
* Full nickel painted, silver or black with machined lip
* Clears Wilwood BBKs and factory Sport brakes. Some 11.75 rotors clear depending on caliper and offset. Templates here cutout - dwg
* Custom offsets, colors and bolt patterns, not available
* Quantity shown on website is what will be available from current run when they arrive in April (many have been pre ordered).
* Pricing on the website
* Totally get like 2psi more boost

If you are wondering about fitment READ THIS!

15x9s on a Miata are DIY fitment, absolutely not plug and play. I will not be able to tell you precisely what needs to be done on every individual car. I can tell you that they will fit with fender massaging and if lowered at all, liner trimming/removal. Basically, youll have to make a little room for them. Fitment on cars other than Miatas is unknown but it's safe to say that a sawzall might be in the picture.

Unflared Miatas with 225/45s or larger will mean rolling fenders. NAs may require slight pulling (stretching) the fenders front and rear. 205s and a little camber might fit without any mods at all. The 275/35 Hoosier will need serious rolling and pulling and may still rub a little depending on your camber and bump travel. If you order the 15x9 6UL's, I assume you are willing to get creative, massage the car a little to solve any clearance issues that may arise.

For those of you with flares, yes of course you will probably want spacers since these essentially fit the unflared fender.

Cool java graphic for comparing different wheel, tires and offsets

This is a limited production wheel but I will keep spares in stock after they sell out. If there is a future production run of the 15x9 6UL, it would likely be first qtr 2009.

I do not offer tires or mounting but here are some recommended sizes:

205/50/15 (drift) common
225/45/15 RS2, R1R, R888, RA1, A6/R6
225/50/15 RS2, RA1, V710, A6/R6, common
235/50/15 R888
245/40/15 CR500
275/35/15 A6/R6

Hankook RS2, Toyo R1R, Toyo R888, Toyo RA1, Hoosier A6/R6, Nitto NT01, Kumho V710, Avon CR500, common

Picture is a 15x8 6UL with 1.125" lip. 15x9 6UL will be virtually identical but with a 1.7" lip


Last edited by emilio700; 01-31-2008 at 04:07 PM.
emilio700 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 03:07 AM   #2
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 158
Total Cats: 0
Default

damn only if you guys had better off set..... wheels look realy nice.
what miata? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 03:08 AM   #3
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
cjernigan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 8,147
Total Cats: 6
Default

What do you consider a better offset?
cjernigan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 03:12 AM   #4
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,308
Total Cats: 1,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by what miata? View Post
damn only if you guys had better off set..... wheels look realy nice.
Better?
emilio700 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 11:31 AM   #5
y8s
2 Props,3 Dildos,& 1 Cat
iTrader: (8)
 
y8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fake Virginia
Posts: 19,037
Total Cats: 406
Default

someone likes his sportmax...


if only there was a street tire in a 245 width. I mean the CR500 has "tread", but is it streetable?
y8s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 01:11 PM   #6
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,308
Total Cats: 1,326
Default

Not really, DOT though. The closest thing to the CR500 is maybe an A6/R6. Very thin, not much in the way of puncture resistance. Dimensionally, the CR500 is short too, 22.6 IIRC. Take a look at 225/50/15's. I used to be of the school that 225/50's were too tall. But you can still get suprising bump travel and general clearance even on an NA once you pull the liners out and roll. The 225/50 V710's I ran for a while on few cars, needed a wider wheel. There was definitely a little of the car rolling over from decrease in sidewall support but mechanical grip was higher, braking in particular.

I'll have to see if I have some pics of the NA with 225/50's on the 8's
emilio700 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 03:49 PM   #7
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Newbsauce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NoVA
Posts: 2,304
Total Cats: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by what miata? View Post
damn only if you guys had better off set..... wheels look realy nice.

Maybe this individual is upset because he does not feel like purchasing wheels+spacers to fill his flares. Probably not likely but i dunno
I think that is one of the main reasons I am shying away from these wheels. I like the wheels a lot, but if your implying I need to spend another 150 bucks in addition to the 900 for 4 of these.. that gets a little steep.

Last edited by Newbsauce; 01-31-2008 at 04:14 PM.
Newbsauce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 04:34 PM   #8
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,308
Total Cats: 1,326
Wink

Just added a link to the OP to a good online tire/wheel size comparator.

I didn't build the 6UL's specifically for flares for 2 reasons:

1. Flares don't intrinsically make my car faster
2. The ratio of Miata owners that have or are willing to do flares to those that aren't is maybe 500:1

In any case, if you have flares, I'm guessing the final look is more important than the additional tire scrub and aero drag so spacers maybe are OK? From what I can tell about 1/4 of all the 15x9's ordered so far are going onto flared cars with spacers so apparently some people are OK with it. A bunch of other users are shoehorning the 275 Hoosier under heavily pulled stock fenders for CSP. The casting is weight/strength optimized for the minimum possible track width. You then tune with spacers just like virtually every Spec Miata and most club racers in other classes.

Ultimately though, I'm selfish. I build the wheels to the spec I need for my track setup and race tires.
emilio700 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 04:43 PM   #9
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,308
Total Cats: 1,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Newbsauce View Post
I like the wheels a lot, but if your implying I need to spend another 150 bucks in addition to the 900 for 4 of these.. that gets a little steep.
The 15x9 6UL is designed to fit under the massaged fenders of a Miata. It's not like I don't understand how to design a wheel with the right offset for flares. I simply chose not to. But that won't keep the guys with flares from seeing it from their point of view, sorry!
emilio700 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 04:52 PM   #10
Elite Member
iTrader: (22)
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sunny Spanish speaking Non US Caribbean
Posts: 3,257
Total Cats: 3
Default QMax

Hey Emilio, welcome to mt.net let me take this opportunity to ask you whether you have any news about the release of your Qmax coolant reroute system. I'm facing heat issues with my engine and I'm anxiously waiting for it.

Best regards,

Rafa
Rafa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 05:05 PM   #11
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Newbsauce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NoVA
Posts: 2,304
Total Cats: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post

Ultimately though, I'm selfish. I build the wheels to the spec I need for my track setup and race tires.
Fair enough explanation
Newbsauce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 05:06 PM   #12
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,308
Total Cats: 1,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafa View Post
Hey Emilio, welcome to mt.net let me take this opportunity to ask you whether you have any news about the release of your Qmax coolant reroute system. I'm facing heat issues with my engine and I'm anxiously waiting for it.

Best regards,

Rafa
Nothing new to report yet. Looks like the first ones we'll take orders for are the 1.6 and 1.8 race (non EGR) systems. EGR and the FFS versions will follow in a few weeks. First production run might sell out as there is a large Miata vendor that wants them too. If you haven't already contact Steve to get on the short list.
emilio700 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 05:29 PM   #13
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,308
Total Cats: 1,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
I can't remember....how many stickers on my car does it require to receive a free set of wheels???
Here's a start:
http://www.949Racing.com/server/superstreetmagazine.JPG
http://www.949racing.com/ProductImages/GRM_cover.bmp

The guy in the red Civic is on his third magazine photo shoot with the wheels and is sporting a windshield banner now. So basically; win a few national level races, get a few hundred thousand people to see my wheels on a website homepage, in a magazine or on the cover and we'll go from there.

As many Miatas as there are out there with them I'm still waiting for coverage on that first big win on the 6UL's.

Be careful though, no actual racing & too many stickers = rice
emilio700 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 06:59 PM   #14
Elite Member
iTrader: (39)
 
Zabac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: High Point NC
Posts: 4,854
Total Cats: 8
Default

15X9=the sexxx
i will own these, one day...
Zabac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 03:00 AM   #15
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 158
Total Cats: 0
Default

well i dont run flares and my car is not for looks.. ill prob have one of the better set ups and higher hp's than most people on the site... and i just like my wheels flush with fender. ive seen your wheels in person i think there great looking wheels i just wish they had a better off set.....

thats my 2 cents
what miata? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 03:39 AM   #16
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,308
Total Cats: 1,326
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by what miata? View Post
i just wish they had a better off set.....
I'm glad you like the look of the wheel. The offset and backside setting are perfect for what they were designed for and couldn't possibly be "better" though. If I told everyone that they were perfect for flares, I agree they could most definitely be better. As it is I let everyone know my design goals and what to expect.

I tried my damndest and spent a lot of time trying to make a 15x10 6UL for flares. Advertised for 11 months. In the end I couldn't sell enough in the pilot run to pay for the tooling and threw in the towel once and for all. So the 15x9 is a no compromise wheel for Miatas without flares.

Got any pics, in car videos, info on your car setup? I see you have Stance coilovers. So Florida. You must know Fyrestrike and Soflarick. What kind of lap times at Homestead and Sebring?

Last edited by emilio700; 02-01-2008 at 04:07 AM.
emilio700 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 02:22 PM   #17
Ben
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default



Rota WHAT?
BTW, these 8" ULs only weigh ~12lbs each.
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 05:57 PM   #18
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: bay area
Posts: 57
Total Cats: 0
Default

damnn that's nice!!! no rubs? and what size tires did u use? you guys are making me change my mind about the getting the RB's
masblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 06:16 PM   #19
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
cjernigan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 8,147
Total Cats: 6
Default

I run 205/50r15 Falken Azeni RT-615s. You can run 225/45r15s all day long on them including RA-1s, RS2s, NT01s and maybe a few others. You can also run 225/50r15s for a taller tire. If you really wanted to you could run 245s as well, i just can't afford them.
cjernigan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 06:43 PM   #20
Ben
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by masblue View Post
damnn that's nice!!! no rubs? and what size tires did u use? you guys are making me change my mind about the getting the RB's
205-50-15, no issues
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Re-Spring Tein FLEX or replace? Mazdaspeeder Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain 21 10-03-2015 07:45 PM
Panasport G7 C8R bogaut Miata parts for sale/trade 6 09-23-2015 04:28 AM
1991 Turbo Miata partout tottestad Miata parts for sale/trade 18 09-14-2015 08:52 PM
NB8B / 15x9 / 225.45.15 - How low can you go? Neddy Race Prep 5 09-08-2015 04:13 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:31 PM.