Adaptronic software setup
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Adaptronic software setup
So last night and this morning I went through the windows in WARI (Adaptronic tuning software) to check the settings and make sure I understand them. I started with the base NB 99-00 map sent out by Travis (from Stein). Below are my comments as I made changes, and also a couple of questions:
Tab Basic Setup, Advanced, Trigger setup page, Injector control window:
- The Current is set to 0.9A and Peak-Hold is checked. For high impedance injectors, should Peak-Hold be selected? I thought that was only for low-impedance injectors.
Answer - use peak-hold:
Injectors drivers setup and what injectors to use?
Tab Basic Setup, advanced, Ignition Control
- For Toyota COPs, the dwell time should be set at 1.5-1.6 ms (1500-1600 us), correct?
Analogue page, MAP sensor type
- Should this be set to 'other' or Adaptronic 3 bar?
Analogue page, Oxygen sensor type
- Set this to 'none' since I will be using the LC-1 serial interface.
TPS calibration
- Need to do this
Knock Sensor
- Need to find a good writeup on tuning the knock sensor.
Corrections, Fuel control, closed loop mode
- Set to 'rapid learning' (was slow converge)
- Unchecked 'do not update cells marked as tuned'
Corrections, fuel control, corrections, cranking fuel
- Rescaled this for 550cc injectors (subtracted 46%). Also rescaled the cranking pulse widths by the same amount.
Corrections, Ignition control, Closed loop Mode, Mode
- Set to open loop right now. Should I wait on adaptive spark tuning until after the fuel map is tuned?
Aux Out
- Aux 2 is for VICS. Set to 4000 RPM right now.
Aux Out
- Aux 6 is only for the radiator fan. How do I set it up to turn on both fans, or do I have to change the wiring (tie triggers together)?
NOTE: Aux 7 is for A/C fan. Looks like I need to do the parallel fan wiring mod. This could be done at the stock ECU connections (I did this with the MS).
Special Functions, second serial port
- Changed to Innovate LC-1
Road Speed, launch control
- Changed from Cut Fuel only to Cut fuel and cut ignition (due to catalytic converter)
Power Cut, safety
- Changed Inst overboost power cut (kPa) to 200
- What is 1 sec overboost?
Answer: Looks like it is to prevent against bad MAP readings?
e420b Power Cut
Power cut, method
- Changed all to cut fuel and cut ignition (due to catalytic converter)
Target AFR
- Changed target AFR values
Power Cut, Safety
- How does Minimum Flat Shift (RPM) work?
You have a choice of cutting fuel and/or spark, it will cut all of which ever method you choose, until the engine drops down below the value you select under "Minimum flat shift (RPM)"
Tab Basic Setup, Advanced, Trigger setup page, Injector control window:
- The Current is set to 0.9A and Peak-Hold is checked. For high impedance injectors, should Peak-Hold be selected? I thought that was only for low-impedance injectors.
Answer - use peak-hold:
Injectors drivers setup and what injectors to use?
Tab Basic Setup, advanced, Ignition Control
- For Toyota COPs, the dwell time should be set at 1.5-1.6 ms (1500-1600 us), correct?
Analogue page, MAP sensor type
- Should this be set to 'other' or Adaptronic 3 bar?
Analogue page, Oxygen sensor type
- Set this to 'none' since I will be using the LC-1 serial interface.
TPS calibration
- Need to do this
Knock Sensor
- Need to find a good writeup on tuning the knock sensor.
Corrections, Fuel control, closed loop mode
- Set to 'rapid learning' (was slow converge)
- Unchecked 'do not update cells marked as tuned'
Corrections, fuel control, corrections, cranking fuel
- Rescaled this for 550cc injectors (subtracted 46%). Also rescaled the cranking pulse widths by the same amount.
Corrections, Ignition control, Closed loop Mode, Mode
- Set to open loop right now. Should I wait on adaptive spark tuning until after the fuel map is tuned?
Aux Out
- Aux 2 is for VICS. Set to 4000 RPM right now.
Aux Out
- Aux 6 is only for the radiator fan. How do I set it up to turn on both fans, or do I have to change the wiring (tie triggers together)?
NOTE: Aux 7 is for A/C fan. Looks like I need to do the parallel fan wiring mod. This could be done at the stock ECU connections (I did this with the MS).
Special Functions, second serial port
- Changed to Innovate LC-1
Road Speed, launch control
- Changed from Cut Fuel only to Cut fuel and cut ignition (due to catalytic converter)
Power Cut, safety
- Changed Inst overboost power cut (kPa) to 200
- What is 1 sec overboost?
Answer: Looks like it is to prevent against bad MAP readings?
e420b Power Cut
Power cut, method
- Changed all to cut fuel and cut ignition (due to catalytic converter)
Target AFR
- Changed target AFR values
Power Cut, Safety
- How does Minimum Flat Shift (RPM) work?
You have a choice of cutting fuel and/or spark, it will cut all of which ever method you choose, until the engine drops down below the value you select under "Minimum flat shift (RPM)"
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So last night and this morning I went through the windows in WARI (Adaptronic tuning software) to check the settings and make sure I understand them. I started with the base NB 99-00 map sent out by Travis (from Stein). Below are my comments as I made changes, and also a couple of questions:
Tab Basic Setup, Advanced, Trigger setup page, Injector control window:
- The Current is set to 0.9A and Peak-Hold is checked. For high impedance injectors, should Peak-Hold be selected? I thought that was only for low-impedance injectors.
Answer - use peak-hold:
Injectors drivers setup and what injectors to use?
- The Current is set to 0.9A and Peak-Hold is checked. For high impedance injectors, should Peak-Hold be selected? I thought that was only for low-impedance injectors.
Answer - use peak-hold:
Injectors drivers setup and what injectors to use?
Tab Basic Setup, advanced, Ignition Control
- For Toyota COPs, the dwell time should be set at 1.5-1.6 ms (1500-1600 us), correct?
- For Toyota COPs, the dwell time should be set at 1.5-1.6 ms (1500-1600 us), correct?
Analogue page, MAP sensor type
- Should this be set to 'other' or Adaptronic 3 bar?
- Should this be set to 'other' or Adaptronic 3 bar?
Analogue page, Oxygen sensor type
- Set this to 'none' since I will be using the LC-1 serial interface.
- Set this to 'none' since I will be using the LC-1 serial interface.
TPS calibration
- Need to do this
- Need to do this
Knock Sensor
- Need to find a good writeup on tuning the knock sensor.
- Need to find a good writeup on tuning the knock sensor.
Corrections, Fuel control, closed loop mode
- Set to 'rapid learning' (was slow converge)
- Unchecked 'do not update cells marked as tuned'
- Set to 'rapid learning' (was slow converge)
- Unchecked 'do not update cells marked as tuned'
Corrections, fuel control, corrections, cranking fuel
- Rescaled this for 550cc injectors (subtracted 46%). Also rescaled the cranking pulse widths by the same amount.
- Rescaled this for 550cc injectors (subtracted 46%). Also rescaled the cranking pulse widths by the same amount.
Corrections, Ignition control, Closed loop Mode, Mode
- Set to open loop right now. Should I wait on adaptive spark tuning until after the fuel map is tuned?
- Set to open loop right now. Should I wait on adaptive spark tuning until after the fuel map is tuned?
Aux Out
- Aux 2 is for VICS. Set to 4000 RPM right now.
- Aux 2 is for VICS. Set to 4000 RPM right now.
Aux Out
- Aux 6 is only for the radiator fan. How do I set it up to turn on both fans, or do I have to change the wiring (tie triggers together)?
NOTE: Aux 7 is for A/C fan. Looks like I need to do the parallel fan wiring mod. This could be done at the stock ECU connections (I did this with the MS).
- Aux 6 is only for the radiator fan. How do I set it up to turn on both fans, or do I have to change the wiring (tie triggers together)?
NOTE: Aux 7 is for A/C fan. Looks like I need to do the parallel fan wiring mod. This could be done at the stock ECU connections (I did this with the MS).
Special Functions, second serial port
- Changed to Innovate LC-1
Road Speed, launch control
- Changed from Cut Fuel only to Cut fuel and cut ignition (due to catalytic converter)
- Changed to Innovate LC-1
Road Speed, launch control
- Changed from Cut Fuel only to Cut fuel and cut ignition (due to catalytic converter)
Power Cut, safety
- Changed Inst overboost power cut (kPa) to 200
- What is 1 sec overboost?
Answer: Looks like it is to prevent against bad MAP readings?
e420b Power Cut
- Changed Inst overboost power cut (kPa) to 200
- What is 1 sec overboost?
Answer: Looks like it is to prevent against bad MAP readings?
e420b Power Cut
Power cut, method
- Changed all to cut fuel and cut ignition (due to catalytic converter)
- Changed all to cut fuel and cut ignition (due to catalytic converter)
Target AFR
- Changed target AFR values
- Changed target AFR values
Power Cut, Safety
- How does Minimum Flat Shift (RPM) work?
You have a choice of cutting fuel and/or spark, it will cut all of which ever method you choose, until the engine drops down below the value you select under "Minimum flat shift (RPM)"
- How does Minimum Flat Shift (RPM) work?
You have a choice of cutting fuel and/or spark, it will cut all of which ever method you choose, until the engine drops down below the value you select under "Minimum flat shift (RPM)"
This is a neat feature, it makes sure you maintain traction through a hard shift, keeps your turbo spooled, and supposedly is even better for your car then coming off the throttle.
Last edited by TravisR; 03-27-2009 at 10:07 AM.
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The flat shift works off the clutch engagement switch. If you put your foot in and try to rev your car, anything over a certain RPM will get Spark/Fuel cut. This allows you to no-lift shift (Lay on the throttle through the shift) It will force you down the value you choose flat shift to be engaged at but that never happens during driving since the shifts happen pretty quickly.
This is a neat feature, it makes sure you maintain traction through a hard shift, keeps your turbo spooled, and supposedly is even better for your car then coming off the throttle.
This is a neat feature, it makes sure you maintain traction through a hard shift, keeps your turbo spooled, and supposedly is even better for your car then coming off the throttle.
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So what I am going to do for the parallel fan mod is tie together Aux 6 and Aux 7 on the boomslang harness (red/brown and red/green on the 16 pin connector). That should do the trick. Travis, any objections to that? They are both just connecting to ground (right?) so it should not hurt anything.
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I'm sure the purists will be along soon to slam me for that comment.
I figured it out! I knew the feature was available I just hadn't used it yet. Set your A/C fan to: OR and then select 2 logic channels 10 and 11 lets say. On 10 select A/C and on 11 select:Water temperature and then set the temperature you would like your fan to come on. That solves both problems with one stone, and no hacking of harnesses!
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I figured it out! I knew the feature was available I just hadn't used it yet. Set your A/C fan to: OR and then select 2 logic channels 10 and 11 lets say. On 10 select A/C and on 11 select the temperature you would like your fan to come on. That solves both problems with one stone, and no hacking of harnesses!
I figured it out! I knew the feature was available I just hadn't used it yet. Set your A/C fan to: OR and then select 2 logic channels 10 and 11 lets say. On 10 select A/C and on 11 select the temperature you would like your fan to come on. That solves both problems with one stone, and no hacking of harnesses!
That OR feature is bad *** though. That could be useful for a lot of things. For example, I'll have to think about it, but maybe I could use that to turn on the fans if the IAT gets above a certain temperature (to cool down the IC), and/or whenever there is boost above X psi.
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IT RUNS!
I got it started and idling decently enough, then drove it around the neighborhood. It still needs a lot of tuning but damn after months of antici........pation it moved under its own power!
The serial connection on the LC-1 is working, and agrees with the dash gauge hooked up to the LC-1 voltage output. The coolant temps and oil pressure are good. The fans come on either with coolant temp or with the a/c.
The turbo even spooled a tiny bit to 5 psi, though I was taking it easy. The ported shroud whistle is audible. Though I know this statement is a bit ricey, it sounds hella kewl.
I have some exhaust rubbing to fix but no big deal.
I got it started and idling decently enough, then drove it around the neighborhood. It still needs a lot of tuning but damn after months of antici........pation it moved under its own power!
The serial connection on the LC-1 is working, and agrees with the dash gauge hooked up to the LC-1 voltage output. The coolant temps and oil pressure are good. The fans come on either with coolant temp or with the a/c.
The turbo even spooled a tiny bit to 5 psi, though I was taking it easy. The ported shroud whistle is audible. Though I know this statement is a bit ricey, it sounds hella kewl.
I have some exhaust rubbing to fix but no big deal.
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OK so when I display the pages on my old tuning laptop (the one I keep in the car) I cannot see the entire screen, and do not see any scroll bars. Thus I cannot get to items that are below the cutoff. Any suggestions?
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I thought I tried the arrow keys and it did not work but I'll try again.
Data logging works. It creates a comma delimited file that is easy to import into Excel.
It is definitely drivable. It stutters a bit when taking off, shifting, stopping, etc, the usual rough tune stuff. But I will probably be driving it to work Monday. In the upper RPM/load range it is running too rich. But that is better than too lean.
Another question on fuel tuning strategy. To get it running, I just used Stein's base map (with the aforementioned changes) and set the fuel trim to about -42% which is where it seems to idle well. Eventually I would want to get that trim back to 0% (scale the map and other raw values) right? Big deal or no?
Data logging works. It creates a comma delimited file that is easy to import into Excel.
It is definitely drivable. It stutters a bit when taking off, shifting, stopping, etc, the usual rough tune stuff. But I will probably be driving it to work Monday. In the upper RPM/load range it is running too rich. But that is better than too lean.
Another question on fuel tuning strategy. To get it running, I just used Stein's base map (with the aforementioned changes) and set the fuel trim to about -42% which is where it seems to idle well. Eventually I would want to get that trim back to 0% (scale the map and other raw values) right? Big deal or no?
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I thought I tried the arrow keys and it did not work but I'll try again.
Data logging works. It creates a comma delimited file that is easy to import into Excel.
It is definitely drivable. It stutters a bit when taking off, shifting, stopping, etc, the usual rough tune stuff. But I will probably be driving it to work Monday.
Another question on fuel tuning strategy. To get it running, I just used Stein's base map (with the aforementioned changes) and set the fuel trim to about -42% which is where it seems to idle well. Eventually I would want to get that trim back to 0% (scale the map and other raw values) right? Big deal or no?
Data logging works. It creates a comma delimited file that is easy to import into Excel.
It is definitely drivable. It stutters a bit when taking off, shifting, stopping, etc, the usual rough tune stuff. But I will probably be driving it to work Monday.
Another question on fuel tuning strategy. To get it running, I just used Stein's base map (with the aforementioned changes) and set the fuel trim to about -42% which is where it seems to idle well. Eventually I would want to get that trim back to 0% (scale the map and other raw values) right? Big deal or no?
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scroll! scroll what? i open the program on my laptop and the **** is all 50% off the screen. I have to move and resize and then you just hold down the right and down arrows to get it to pan over.
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OK scrolling with the arrow keys works for the tuning table. But for the other windows it does not.
BUT, it turns out someone set the display to 800x600 and I had not noticed I returned it to native resolution (1400x1050) and now there is no problem. That was the dumbass move du jour for me.
BUT, it turns out someone set the display to 800x600 and I had not noticed I returned it to native resolution (1400x1050) and now there is no problem. That was the dumbass move du jour for me.
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Another question on fuel tuning strategy. To get it running, I just used Stein's base map (with the aforementioned changes) and set the fuel trim to about -42% which is where it seems to idle well. Eventually I would want to get that trim back to 0% (scale the map and other raw values) right? Big deal or no?